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anyone here have a ballistic chart for the 22 lr? curious how bad she drops with a 36 grain bullet at 300 + yards.
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Check the manufacturer's website for factory ammo. Different 22lr ammo can vary a lot in muzzle velocity.
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Check the manufacturer's website for factory ammo. Different 22lr ammo can vary a lot in muzzle velocity. maybe I spoke too soon. Remington does nor have ballistics for rimfire ammo on the web.
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try to google Mini Palma. I suspect somewhere in there you'll be able to find the answer to 200 at least. I think they had or have a forum too.
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http://www.eskimo.com/~jbm/calculations/traj/traj.html
Reverse calculate the BC based upon the ballistics from the manufacturer's website, then run the calculation.
For example, my favorite is the CCI .22LR SubSonic HP 40 gr. lead hollow point. Factory ballistics show muzzle velocity of 1050 fps, 963 at 50 yards, 928 at 75 yards, 897 at 100. 100 yard zero gives +2.3" at 25, +3.9 inches at 50 yards, +3.2 inches at 75 yards.
Reverse calculation gives a BC of about .118.
Run that for the parameters above, and you find that with a 100 yard zero, you're minus 14.7" at 150 (-9.7MOA), -41.8" at 200 (-19.9MOA), -82.7" at 250 (-31.6MOA), and -139.2" at 300 (-44.3MOA). BTW - velocity and energy at 300 should be about 707 fps, and 44.5 ft./lbs., for that load.
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Lots of work, but a good way to figure it if no other way! Good job! I know one thing, 22s get blown all over the damn place at 200 yards already. Jeff
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thanks guys, we're goin shootin today and we were gonna try to hit metal plates at 300
they are ony 7" square targets.
should be fun
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With ammo so cheap you can afford to learn the trajectory by shooting. This is always prefered to using charts.
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oh yeah, we shot those targets up good. i have a mil dot reticle. 4th dot down. DING! 27 hits in a row on the plates. then i dug out the 30-06 and blew a bunch of holes in my target. OOPS!
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ironeagle_84, i dug out the 30-06 and blew a bunch of holes in my target. OOPS! Good thing I'm giving you a ride to the gathering. You might tear up that Dodge on the way.
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nah, that dodge is tough as nails.
are you gonna bring your 220 extremist to the shoot this spring rich?
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Here's some info......
Rimfire Ballistics: .17HMR, .22 S,L,LR & .22 WMR
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(.17 HORNADY MAGNUM RIMFIRE)--24-in. barrel, 1 turn in 16-inch twist)
HORNADY, 17-gr. V-Max Bullet (83170), 2550 MV, 245 ME, 0.125 BC
REMINGTON, 17-gr. Premier V-Max AccuTip (PR17HM1), 2550 MV, 245 ME, ? BC---(BC, barrel length & rate of twist to be verified w/Remington.)
CCI, 17-gr. TNT HP Hollow Point (0053), 2525 MV, 241 ME, 0.110 BC (Appx.)---(Barrel length: 24 in., rate-of-twist: 1 turn in 9 in., and BC, approximated, as per verification w/ CCI.)
FEDERAL, 17-gr. Speer TNT JHP (P770), 2550 MV, 245 ME, 0.100 BC---(24-inch barrel length, rate-of-twist: 1 turn in 9 inches.)
FEDERAL, 17-gr. Hornady V-Max (P771), 2550 MV, 245 ME, 0.120 BC---(24-inch barrel length, rate-of-twist: 1 turn in 9 inches.)
(.22 SHORT--24-in. barrel, 1 turn in 16-inch twist)
CCI, 29-gr. Short High Speed Solid (0027), 1132 MV, 83 ME, 0.105 BC CCI, 27-gr. Short HP (0028), 1164 MV, 81 ME, 0.105 BC SELLIER and BELLOT, 28-gr. Short (SBA02204), 932 MV, 54 ME, 0.065 BC RWS, 28-gr. Short R25 (213 4267), 560 MV, 20 ME, 0.047 BC AGUILA, 29-gr. Short High Velocity, 1095 MV, 77 ME, 0.105 BC REMINGTON, 29-gr. Short Solid (1022), 1095 MV, 77 ME, 0.105 BC
WINCHESTER, 29-gr. Short Standard Vel. Solid (X22S), 1095 MV, 77 ME, 0.105 BC
CCI, 29-gr. Short Target Solid (0037), 830 MV, 44 ME, 0.074 BC ELEY, 29-gr. Short Rapid Fire Match, 750 MV, 36 ME, 0.050 BC
CCI, 29-gr. Short CB Lead Round Nose Solid (0026), 727 MV, 33 ME, 0.072 BC---(Note: CCI's ballistics do not list a BC. They show MV out of a 6-inch handgun barrel as 706 fps with 32 ME.)
FIOCCHI, 29-gr. Short Round Nose Compensated Solid (22SM200), 650 MV, 27 ME, 0.110 BC
(.22 LONG--24-in. barrel, 1 turn in 16-inch twist)
CCI, 29-gr. Long High Speed (0029), 1180 MV, 90 ME, 0.109 BC
CCI, CB Long Solid (0038), 727 MV, 33 ME, 0.072 BC---(Note: CCI's ballistics do not list a BC. They show MV out of a 6-inch handgun barrel as 706 fps with 32 ME.)
(.22 LONG RIFLE, Standard Vel. & Match Ammo--24-in. barrel, 1 turn in 16-inch twist)
SWARTKLIP, 13-gr. LR SDP Subsonic Diabolo Pellet (SK006), 480 MV, 7 ME ? BC---(BC & rate of twist to be verified w/ArmsCorpUSA. Barrel length: 24 in.)
LAPUA, 36-gr. LR Subsonic HP (4312246), 1033 MV, 85 ME, 0.118 BC REMINGTON, 38-gr. LR Subsonic HP (SUB22HP), 1050 MV, 93 ME, 0.125 BC AGUILA, 38-gr. LR Subsonic HP, 1025 MV, 88 MV, 0.111 BC PMC, 38-gr. LR Modrator Subsonic Vel. (22SS), 1000 MV, 84 ME, 0.107 BC RWS, 40-gr. R100 (213 4195), 1175 MV, 123 ME, 0.130 BC
REMINGTON, 40-gr. LR Target Solid (6122) (6100), 1150 MV, 117 ME, 0.149 BC
WINCHESTER, 40-gr. T22 LR Std. Vel. Solid (XT22LR), 1150 MV, 117 ME, 0.149 BC
FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Ultramatch Solid (UM1), 1140 MV, 115 ME, 0.149 BC FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Match Solid (900), 1140 MV, 115 ME, 0.149 BC AGUILA, 40-gr. LR Std. Vel., 1135 MV, 114 ME, 0.158 BC
PMC, 40-gr. Scoremaster LR Std. Vel. Solid (22SM), 1135 MV, 114 ME, 0.111 BC
FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR Biathlon Match Solid (22SM340), 1120 MV, 111 ME, 0.140 BC=Estimated
AGUILA, 40-gr. LR Match Golden Eagle, 1100 MV, 110 ME, 0.109 BC LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Polar Biathlon Solid (4317023), 1100 MV, 107 ME, 0.108 BC ELEY, 40-gr. Tenex Ultimate EPS, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC ELEY, 40-gr. Match EPS, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC ELEY, 40-gr. Club, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC ELEY, 40-gr. Target, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.105 BC ELEY, 40-gr. Practice, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC ELEY, 40-gr. Standard, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC ELEY, 40-gr. Biathlon Match, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC ELEY, 40-gr. LR Silhouex, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC REMINGTON/ELEY,40-gr. Match EPS (RE22EPS), 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.149 BC REMINGTON/ELEY, 40-gr. Club Extra (RE22CX), 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.149 BC REMINGTON/ELEY, 40-gr. Target Rifle (RE22T), 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.149 BC AGUILA, 40-gr. Match Rifle, 1080 MV, 100 ME, 0.197 BC
SELLIER and BELLOT, 40-gr. LR SB Standard (SBA02201), 1084 MV, 104 ME, 0.131 BC
SELLIER and BELLOT, 40-gr. LR SB Standard (SBA02202), 1084 MV, 104 ME, 0.131 BC
FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Ultramatch Solid (UM1B), 1080 MV, 105 ME, 0.139 BC FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Target Solid (711B), 1080 MV, 105 ME, 0.138 BC FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Match Solid (900B), 1080 MV, 105 ME, 0.139 BC RWS, 40-gr. LR Target Rifle (213 2478), 1080 MV, 100 ME, 0.109 BC CCI, 40-gr. LR Std. Vel. Solid (0032), 1070 MV, 100 ME, 0.105 BC CCI, 40-gr. LR Green Tag Comp. Solid (0033), 1070 MV, 100 ME, 0.105 BC CCI, 40-gr. LR Pistol Match Solid (0051), 1070 MV, 100 ME, 0.105 BC RWS, 40-gr. LR R50 (21304187), 1070 MV, 100 ME, 0.105 BC LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Master Solid (4317033), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Midas L Solid (4317022), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Midas M Solid (4317021), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC NORMA 1, 40-gr. Lead, Round Nose (15613), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC NORMA 2, 40-gr. Lead, Round Nose (15614), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC NORMA 3, 40-gr. Lead, Round Nose (15615), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR-Rifle Match Solid (22SM320), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.140 BC FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR Match Trng. Solid (22M320), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.130 BC LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Super Club Solid (4317066), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.114 BC LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Std. Rifle Club Solid (43122420), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.114 BC WOLF, 40-gr. LR Match Target Solid Round Nose, 1050 MV, 97.91 ME, ? BC* WOLF, 40-gr. LR Match Extra Solid Round Nose, 1033 MV, 94.77 ME, ? BC* WOLF, 40-gr. LR Match Gold Solid Round Nose, 1033 MV, 94.77 ME, ? BC* PMC, 40-gr. Match Rifle (22MR), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.110 BC RWS, 40-gr. LR Rifle Match (213 4225), 1035 MV, 95 ME, 0.096 BC ELEY, 40-gr. Tenex Ultimate EPS Pistol, 1030 MV, 94 ME, 0.109 BC ELEY, 40-gr. Pistol Xtra, 1030 MV, 94 ME, 0.109 BC ELEY, 40-gr. Target Pistol, 1030 MV, 94 ME, 0.109 BC LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Pistol King Solid (4317031), 1033 MV, 95 ME, 0.130 BC LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Pistol Trainer Solid (4312260), 1033 MV, 95 ME, 0.130 BC ELEY, 40-gr. Pistol Match, 1000 MV, 89 ME, 0.140 BC FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR Pistol Match Solid (22SM300), 984 MV, 86 ME, 0.130 BC FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR Match Trng. Solid (22M300), 984 MV, 86 ME, 0.125 BC PMC, 40-gr. Match Pistol (22MP), 900 MV, 72 ME, 0.095 BC WINCHESTER, 40-gr. LR Lead HP (W22LRB), 1150 MV, 117 ME, 0.150 BC ELEY, 40-gr. LR Subsonic Xtra Plus, 1065 MV, 100 ME, 0.115 BC RWS, 40-gr. LR Subsonic HP (213 2494), 1000 MV, 90 ME, 0.092 BC LAPUA, 48-gr. LR Scoremax Solid (4317030), 1033 MV, 114 ME, 0.144 BC LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Multi Match Solid (4317020), 1100 MV, 129 ME, 0.134 BC AGUILA, 60-gr. SSS Sniper Subsonic, 950 MV, 120 ME, 0.090 BC
(.22 LONG RIFLE, High Velocity & Hyper Velocity)
AGUILA, 30-gr. Super Maximum Solid P., 1750 MV, 204 ME, 0.102 BC AGUILA, 30-gr. Super Maximim Hollow P., 1750 MV, 204 ME, 0.102 BC
FEDERAL, 31-gr. LR Hyper Vel. HP Copper Pltd. (724), 1550 MV, 165 ME, 0.107 BC
CCI, 32-gr. LR Stinger HP (0050), 1640 MV, 191 ME, 0.103 BC CCI, 32-gr. Quik-Shok (0064), 1640 MV, 191 ME, 0.103 BC REMINGTON, 33-gr. LR Yellow Jacket HP (1722), 1500 MV, 165 ME, 0.107 BC
SWARTKLIP, 35-gr. LR SLD Spitzer Low Drag (SK001), 1410 MV, 157 ME, ? BC---(BC & rate of twist to be verified w/ArmsCorpUSA. Barrel length: 24 in.)
REMINGTON, 36-gr. LR Viper Solid (1922), 1410 MV, 159 ME, 0.117 BC SELLIER and BELLOT, 36-gr. LR HV (SBA02206), 1330 MV, 141 ME, 0.091 BC
LAPUA, 36-gr. LR HP (4312245), 1345 MV, 145 ME, 0.122 BC CCI, 36-gr. LR Mini-Mag HP (0031), 1280 MV, 135 ME, 0.126 BC REMINGTON, 36-gr. LR Cyclone HP (CY22HP), 1280 MV, 131 ME, 0.124 BC REMINGTON, 36-gr. LR HP (1622), 1280 MV, 131 ME, 0.124 BC FEDERAL, 36-gr. LR HP (730), 1255 MV, 125 ME, 0.125 BC WINCHESTER, 36-gr. LR HP (XPERT22), 1220 MV, 122 ME, 0.105 BC WINCHESTER, 37-gr. LR HP (X22LRH), 1280 MV, 135 ME, 0.128 BC ELEY, 37.5-gr. LR HV Hollow, 1312 MV, 143, ME, 0.193 BC SELLIER and BELLOT, 38-gr. HV HP (SBA02203), 1281 MV, 138 ME, 0.102 BC AGUILA, 38-gr. LR High Vel. HP, 1280 MV, 138 ME, 0.124 BC
SWARTKLIP, 38-gr. LR SXHP Super Hollow Point (SK002), 1340 MV, 156 ME, ? BC---(BC & rate of twist to be verified w/ArmsCorpUSA. Barrel length: 24 in.)
AMERICAN EAGLE (Federal) 38-gr. LR Hollow Point Copper-Plated (AE22), 1280 MV, 140 ME, 0.132 BC
FEDERAL, 38-gr. LR HP Copper-Plated (712), 1280 MV, 140 ME, 0.132 BC PMC, 38-gr. Zapper LR High Vel. HP CC (22D), 1280 MV, 138 ME, 0.109 BC
SWARTKLIP, 39-gr. STB Sabre Tip Bullet (SK004), 1340 MV, 150 ME, ? BC---(BC & rate of twist to be verified w/ArmsCorpUSA. Barrel length: 24 in.)
LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Speed Ace Solid (4312243), 1345 MV, 161 ME, 0.120 BC ELEY, 40-gr. LR HV Solid, 1312 MV, 153 ME, 0.193 BC
AMERICAN EAGLE (Federal) 40-gr. LR Solid (AE5022), 1260 MV, 140 ME, 0.138 BC
FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Solid, Copper Plated (710) (810), 1260 MV, 140 ME, 0.138 BC
FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Solid (510), 1260 MV, 140 ME, 0.138 BC CCI, 40-gr. LR Silhouette (0065), 1255 MV, 140 ME, 0.138 BC CCI, 40-gr. LR HS Mini-Mag Solid (0030), 1255 MV, 140 ME, 0.138 BC PMC, 40-gr. Zapper LR High Vel. Solid CC (22CC), 1255 MV, 140 ME, 0.121 BC REMINGTON, 40-gr. LR Solid (1522), 1255 MV, 140 ME, 0.138 BC REMINGTON, 40-gr. LR Thunderbolt Solid (TB22A), 1255 MV, 140 ME, 0.139 BC WINCHESTER, 40-gr. LR Wildcat Solid (WW22LR), 1255 MV, 140 ME, 0.139 BC WINCHESTER, 40-gr. LR Solid (X22LR), 1255 MV, 140 ME, 0.139 BC AGUILA 40-gr. LR High Velocity, 1250 MV, 139 ME, 0.141 BC PMC, 40-gr. Sidewinder LR High Vel. Solid (22SC), 1250 MV, 139 ME, 0.121 BC CCI, 40-gr. Velocitor HP (0047), 1435 MV, 183 ME, 0.132 BC RWS, 40-gr. High Velocity HP (213 2494), 1310 MV, 150 ME, 0.104 BC
WINCHESTER, 40-gr. LR Power-Point HP (X22LRPP), 1280 MV, 146 ME, 0.118 BC
SWARTKLIP, 45-gr. SHP Solid Heavyweight Bullet (SK003), 1225 MV, 156 ME, ? BC---(BC & rate of twist to be verified w/ArmsCorpUSA. Barrel length: 24 in.)
(.22 WINCHESTER MAGNUM RIMFIRE--WMR)
CCI, 30-gr. WMR Maxi-Mag + V HP (0059), 2200 MV, 322 ME, 0.084 BC CCI, 30-gr. WMR TNT HP (0063), 2200 MV, 322 ME, 0.084 BC FEDERAL, 30-gr. WMR Jacketed HP (767), 2200 MV, 325 ME, 0.088 BC FEDERAL, 30-gr. WMR TNT JHP (P765), 2200 MV, 325 ME, 0.079 BC
REMINGTON, 33-gr. WMR Premier V-Max Boat Tail (R22M1), 2000 MV, 293 ME, 0.137 BC
WINCHESTER 34-gr. WMR Jacketed HP (S22WM), 2120 MV, 338 ME, 0.102 BC CCI, 40-gr. WMR Maxi-Mag Solid (0023), 1910 MV, 324 ME, 0.110 BC FEDERAL, 40-gr. WMR FMJ Solid (737), 1910 MV, 325 ME, 0.111 BC
PMC, 40-gr. WMR Predator Magnum Jacketed Soft Point (22WMA), 1910 MV, 324 ME, 0.183 BC
PMC, 40-gr. WMR Predator Magnum Jacketed Hollow Point (22WMB), 1910 MV, 324 ME, 0.183 BC
REMINGTON, 40-gr. WMR Pointed Soft Point Solid (R22M2), 1910 MV, 324 ME, 0.114 BC
WINCHESTER, 40-gr. WMR FMJ Solid (X22M), 1910 MV, 324 ME, 0.110 BC CCI, 40-gr. WMR Maxi-Mag HP (0024), 1910 MV, 324 ME, 0.110 BC REMINGTON, 40-gr. WMR Jacketed HP (R22M2), 1910 MV, 324 ME, 0.116 BC WINCHESTER, 40-gr. WMR Jacketed HP (X22MH), 1910 MV, 324 ME, 0.110 BC FEDERAL, 50-gr. WMR Jacketed HP (757), 1650 MV, 302 ME, 0.158 BC
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thanks man! that is the best darn chart a guy could ask for.
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Your more than welcome, I got it off the net 5 or 10 years ago myself. Glad to pass it on...
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Excellent resource. Thanks Bill!
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The information I am giving is for a federal 36 grain copper plated hollow point. Since you gave me no specifications on barrel length I will have you run the velocity at 1240 ft/s to be safe. Try running a B.C. value of .134 G1 and then input everything else as close as possible into a ballistics program. This should get you pretty close to hitting those 7" targets at 300 yards (: .22 LR long distance shooting is very fun, I went out to 325 yards once and the bullet impact went out of my scopes field of view!! I would find my target, line the crosshair up, raise the scopes field of view out of the target, pull the trigger, and then look back at the target to watch the bullet impact, it is interesting seeing how long the time of flight is. I just compensated because I didn't think my scope would handle all the clicks =p So I just left it alone, I hit my target too! Thank god .22 LR ammunition is cheap, it took me a lot of shots!
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Here is a chart on 22rimfire showing that as the velocity decreases the BC increases. http://www.exteriorballistics.com/ebexplained/22rimfire.cfmAlso in BGunn's post above the fiocchi 22sm200 at the lowest speed of the shorts at 650fps shows the highest BC. Which is right?
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I don't believe BGunn's figures are entirely accurate. For example his table shows 60gr .22LR with among the lowest BC. Among bullets with the same nose and tail (which I happen to know the 60gr shares with most 40gr .22LR) it should have the highest BC at any velocity because of its increased length and mass.
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