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If you can't get 57 of IMR4350 and a 165 gr to shoot, you got more issues than powder and a bullet.
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Yep, I haven't found a an 06 that didn't shoot that load great.
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Elk in the dark timber always got the attention of those 220 grain Winchester Silver Tips back when Kennedy was Pres.
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52 grains of IMR4064 and a 150. That's a fine load. I use a little more because my favorite .30-06 seems to like it, but I doubt that it kills any better.
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56 grains of IMR4350, CCI 200, 165 grain Remington Accutip or Hornady SST. 2770FPS from Marlin XL-7 [best group - .485"]
60 grains of H4831, CCI250, 180 grain Nosler Solid Base. 2670FPS from Marlin XL-7 [best group - .274"]
59 grains of Win WXR [Rel-22], CCI250, 180 grain Solid Base. 2711 FPS from Marlin XL-7 [best group .197"]
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Did some shooting yesterday with my sporterized M1917 Enfield with a load that I found a couple years ago for it.
165gr Hornady SP 58gr IMR 4831 R-P cases WLR primers
The old guy (made July, 1918) will put three into 1/2" group at 100 yards on a regular basis. This is with an old (dare I say?) Bushnell Banner 3-9X scope and original military trigger. I've got an Enfield like that.. mine is a hybrid tho.. the action is a Winchester built one, and the barrel is a Remington built one.. It still has the full 26 inches, and it is as accurate as any self respecting varmint rifle..still with military trigger...which I like and also like the cock on opening feature, regardless of what other folks say.. It will take loads all day, of a heavy charge of 4831SC and 200 grain bullets, giving an MV of over 2900 fps with that bullet! Handloading for a friends M1 Garand for match shooting, I came across some older Speer data for the 06, using 4064.. using 50 grains of it with a 180 grain bullet, gives a very respectable 2800 fps out of both the Enfield and the Model 70.. This winter the Enfield is going to get Parkerized, and a Picatinny Rail mounted on it..the scope is getting changed to a Leupold 3 x 9 with a heavy German # 1 reticle on it..
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"It will take loads all day, of a heavy charge of 4831SC and 200 grain bullets, giving an MV of over 2900 fps with that bullet!"
That must be some load... Wow... 2900 fps with a 200 gr bullet is good for a .300 Win mag!
Just how heavy is that 4831 load??? Wow!
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"It will take loads all day, of a heavy charge of 4831SC and 200 grain bullets, giving an MV of over 2900 fps with that bullet!"
That must be some load... Wow... 2900 fps with a 200 gr bullet is good for a .300 Win mag!
Just how heavy is that 4831 load??? Wow! will send you that info in a PM... but actually I worked the load up to that, after a conversation with the "Ballistics Guru" at Nosler, who told me that one couldn't fill the 06 case up with enough H4831SC, to get themselves into trouble with pressure.
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Take a look at my various 200gn loads. The best I could do was way short of what is being recommended and as usual, 760/H414 is still the world champ powder for my '06 at least.
.30/06 Springfield Page 1. Bullet Load Powder O. A. L. Velocity Energy Comments 110gn Sierra HP 55gn IMR 4320 3037 55gn H 4895 3303 50 gn Rel 12 2855 125gn Speer TNT 55gn IMR 4320 2920 55gn H 4895 3152 50gn Rel 12 2855 130gn ADI HP 55gn IMR 4320 2939 60gn Rel 19 2590 55gn H4895 3167 50gn Rel 12 2751 130gn Speer HP 58gn VARGET 3280 .708" MOA 5 shots 60gn VARGET 3360 MOA load also 58gn Rel 15 3244 MOA load 55gn Nobels #2 3202 130gn Speer SP 57gn Nobels #2 3281 MAX 55gn IMI Ball 3023 .731" MOA 5 shots 130gn Barnes TTSX 58gn VARGET 3100 Mild 59gn VARGET 3167 2896 60gn VARGET 3188 .5 Good Load 65gn H 414 3070 MIld 150gn Nosler Part 55.5gn VARGET 3036 57gn VARGET 3088 MAX 60.6gn AR 2209 2890 150gn PMC SP Factory 2628 1.904" 150gn Woodleigh 62gn Win 760 3067 3134 150gn Hornady SP 63gn Win 760 3046 1.351" 64gn Win 760 3076 3152 .842" 5 shots 53gn Rel 15 2940 also 55gn VARGET 2994 58gn VARGET 3156 1.414" MAX 150gn Hornady RN 58gn H 4350 2733 .8" Mild 60gn H 4350 2884 .6" 63gn H 4350 3037 .909" 150gn Sierra BT 64gn Win 760 3049 .849" 5 shots same load 3078 .842" 5 shots All 5 shot groups same load 3085 .551" 5 shots 150gn Win PP Factory 2853 2712 150gn Part Gold 62gn Win 760 3103 .527" 3 shots 63gn Win 760 3115 Warn Load .30/06 Springfield Page 2. Bullet Load Powder O. A. L. Velocity Energy Comments 165gn Win ST Factory 2680 2.695" 165gn Hornady BT 61gn Win 760 2942 .967" 61gn H 4350 1.139" 60gn Rel 19 2691 .8" 53gn VARGET 2887 1.01" 5 shots 55gn VARGET 2958 MAX 165gn Speer BT 61gn Win 760 2890 1.627" 165gn Barnes XBT 53gn VARGET 2913 55gn VARGET 3008 MAX 61gn Win 760 3039 55gn Rel 15 3078 168gn Barnes TSX 61gn Win 760 2961 62gn Win 760 3016 62gn H 4350 2966 Accurate Load 165gn Failsafe 52gn VARGET 3.144" 2841 1.25" 53gn VARGET 3.186" 2861 1.5" 180gn Win ST Factory 2621 2746 3.36" 3 shots 180gn Woodleigh 60gn Win 760 2886 3330 59gn IMR 4350 180gn Sierra SP 57gn Rel 19 2585 Mild 59gn Rel 19 2646 1.2" 57gn Win 760 2763 Mild 59gn Win 760 2808 52gn VARGET 2752 .8" 50gn Rel 15 2688 Warm load 55gn IMR 4350 2740 Mild 60gn H 4350 2823 3186 .890" 61gn IMR 4350 2889 3396 MAX 180gn Hornady BT 59gn Win 760 2814 .994" 60gn IMR 4350 2865 .638" 61gn IMR 4350 2933 1.266" 180gn Swift A-Frame 59gn Win 760 2790 60gn H 4350 2771 1.146" 61gn IMR 4350 2899 3.273" 180gn Failsafe Factory 3.160" 2632 60gn WMR 3.154" 2566 2 MOA 62gn MRP 2680 57gn Win 760 2720 58gn Win 760 2783 2 MOA .30/06 Springfield Page 3. Bullet Load Powder O. A. L. Velocity Energy Comments 180gn Failsafe (cont). 59gn Win 760 2867 3286 Warm 62gn H 4831 2722 MOA 58gn IMR 4350 3.153" 2756 3037 1.25" 61gn H 4350 2741 3004 180gn Ballistic S/T 57gn Win 760 2788 3106 .7" 58gn Win 760 2814 59gn Win 760 2882 3321 MAX MOA 180gn Barnes XBT 60gn H 4350 2806 180gn Barnes TSX 60gn H 4350 2842 3229 .5" 200gn Speer SP 58gn Rel 19 2572 53gn IMR 4350 2620 54gn H 4350 2644 55gn H 4350 2737 3328 200gn Barnes X 53gn H 4350 2659 3141 54gn H 4350 2694 3224 Warm 200gn Accubond 55gn H 414 2636 3087 Mild 56gn H 414 2720 2.5" 57gn H 414 2703 Warm 59gn H 4350 2650 3120 1" Good Load 60gn H 4831 2437 Mild - Compressed 200gn Nosler Part 57gn H 414 2733 3318 1" Good Load 58gn H 414 2762 Warm 1.5" 58gn H 4350 2556 Mild 59gn H 4350 2651 2" Seat out further 61gn H 4831 2496 Mild - Compressed Load 62.5gn H 4831 2559 2909 Mild - Powder too slow 220gn Woodleigh 57gn H 4350 2551 3180 .508" 220gn Sierra RN 56gn Win 760 2560 57gn Win 760 2605 1.2 MOA 57gn H 4350 2524 .556" 59gn H 4350 2603 Warm 51gn IMR 4350 2393 52gn IMR 4350 2403 52gn Rel 19 2170 .7" Mild
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I have one load that I use because it just works that well. 59.0 grains of IMR 4350 behind a Speer 150 grain mag tip seated at the cannelure with a CCI 200 primer lighting the fire. Generic as hell but it works faithfully every time with great monotony. How fast, who cares, I don't own a chrony and neither do the deer.
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168 hornady match hp-59gr IMR 4831 180 hornady spitzer-56gr IMR 4831
But for my m1 garand 150 fmj/sp-48.5 H4895 or 48.0 WW 748
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+1 If you can't get 57 of IMR4350 and a 165 gr to shoot, you got more issues than powder and a bullet.
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i have a stevens 200 in 30-06, with 48.0 gr of imr 4895 with 168 gr matchking 10 tho off lands makes 1 hole 5 shot group for me. {yes i know matchkings are punching holes in targets}
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Lightsoutsix, For many years H414 was the powder for my Remington with 150 grain bullets. Had no problem getting to the 3000fps range, and accuracy was good. I shot the factory barrel out and re-barrled with a Shilen. I discovered with the new barrel I could not get the same velocity, ended up using H380.
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Service Match loads for M1 GR. 49.5gr IMR4895 155gr MatchKing 50gr IMR4064 168gr MatchKing (My favorite it wins)
Hunting load for Pre64 Mod. 70.Win. 50gr IMR or Accurate 4064 165gr Noz.Part. (deer-elk) 2865fps. been using this load for 30+years
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52 grains of IMR4064 and a 150. Old load that still works good! In my abolt, it turns my '06 into a 308. Factory federal 150gr. 308's run 2824 out of my 24" barrel Montana. 52 grains IMR 4064 push various 150gr. bullets around 2830 in my '06 A-bolt. Very accurate but I may push things to 53 grains and see what happens.
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60 grains of IMR4350 will push that bullet along near 3K if you want. It was safe in my Tikka, but I worked it up. Actually went to 60.5 and clocked 3040.
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Thanks, I'll try working up some IMR 4350, My 300 wsm loves that powder. I just haven't tried it in the 06' since H414 and IMR 4064 had been working so well.
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whats wraong with 2600-2700. might produce fantastic results with the balistic tips and acubond. heck even the corelockts would perform great at that speed.
i wouldnt dub it cause its a couple fps slower
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I ain't never see'd an .06 that wouldn't shoot well; if all else was good; with a full charge of IMR4350.
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