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I do recall not buying a Classic 350RM at a Dallas gun show back in the mid 90s, had some awesome wood and they are said to be good shooters. I think the latest 350 Rem came out with looking like the originals just turned people off with the useless vent rib and all. I have no clue, who sits around dreaming up ideas for new products.

Anyways, Himmelrr, not received in that way. I learn alot here, don't know everything, and hope to keep learning. When I am wrong, and I have and sure to be wrong again, or if my information is not factual, I am happy for others to educate me. I am sure there are times when my experiences offend others thought it is never intended, but I do my best to share everything, 'just how it is/was for me' and not twist anything. I appreciate others being frank and blunt as it serves nobody to BS things.

The 358 is one round like the 250-3000, I see as a fine classic that DESERVES to live on by it's merits, and get more industry support in new guns/ammo.

In the meantime, I could see a day putting one together on an L579 Sako, M70 SA w/Claw extractor, or a Kimber. Using cheap pistol bullets is a nice option for handloaders. My Ruger 350 did Awful things to gallon water jugs at 200 yds, w/158s! Fore me, it beats punching holes in paper anyday.

I also like 20-22" bbls and the 35 bore has a nice expansion ratio that works very well in said length.






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Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
HawkI: I agree with you most whole heartedly!
I would give a good tooth if only Remington would offer a "Classic" in 222 Remington Magnum!
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VarmintGuy,

A Classic M-700 is so easy to come by, I'd wonder why you just don't make one... All you have to do is buy an early production M-700 in .222 Rem Mag and bolt it into a "Classic" stock, and there you go... At one time all my M-700's were in Classic stocks up until Remington introduced the CDL stock. Now most of them wear the CDL stock.

BTW, my .222 Rem Mag, is an early one with 20" bbl. I put it into a S/A Mtn rifle stock prior to the introduction of the CDL replete with an 8x36 Leupold, it makes a very nice handling package... smile

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Someone asked earlier and yes the 2009 was in .257 Roberts and is still available. It's even on the Remington website still. No idea on 2010.


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I just don't know about that "C". The custom shop at Remington is so backed up I find it hard to believe that they are making rifles that are sold thru regular outlets. Except for a couple of project rifles, mine are locked up in a vault that I can only get to during business hours. Kinda a PIA but safe while I relocate.


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Stillbeeman, my stint with Rem guns ended around 1997 or so. The guns I was speaking of were built from then backwards a decade that I referred to, again, not sure of the specifics/truths around the comment, but noticed in MY guns and some examined, some had them and some did not.

Good idea to keep them safe! I welcome Rem owners to let me know if their's have the 'C' or not. For the record, surprise to me, the 270 DBL/SS I just checked that my son inherited does have the 'S' so the poster above, that mirrors your note.

I would not find it hard to imagine certain ltd. run rifles/Xp'100s came out the custom shop, or at least the action. If so, it's to give them more attention, or to keep those personnel busy, or just relieve the main production line I don't know, just thinking of possibilities.

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Additionally, the M700 Classics began in 1978 (maybe 1977) thru 1980 as a regular production rifle available in the common L/A cartridges (270, 06, 7RM and a few others). I don't know if they were available in S/A. I have a 1978 Classic in 270.

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I believe the "Model 700 CDL SF Limited Edition" has become the new one-chambering-per-year, limited edition Model 700 rifle replacing the Model 700 Classic in the product line.

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I've got a classic in 6.5x55 and a 2006 CDL in .30-06, also an RMEF in .300 SAUM.

now they seem to be making the CDL in one unique caliber per year with floor plate artwork in addition to several common calibers without the artwork.

they also make the RMEF in a single caliber per year, this year is a .30-06 and I REALLY want one... (problem is there are more "really wants" than my bank account can handle at once) the RMEF is an XCR with a camo stock.

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so, I always look at the Remington website around the new year with anticipation to see what they chose!

I think Remington has a rule that they only chamber calibers that the ammo division sells ammo for.

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The Classic was offered a few years ago in 223, so figure some other chamberings were also made on the SA. Really like those Classic stocks.


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Below is a list of all calibers Remington had produced in the Model 700 only. Classic's are noted in the year produced. This is from the Remington Website:

17 Rem (1971 � Present, 1999 Classic)
204 Ruger (2004 � Present)
220 Swift (1992 � Present, 1992 Classic)
221 Fireball (2002 Classic, 2002 � Present standard offering)
222 Rem (1962 � Present)
222 Rem Mag (1962 � 1968, 1993 Classic)
223 Rem (1967 � Present, 2000 Classic)
22-250 Rem (1965 � Present)
243 Win (1962 � Present)
6mm Rem (1962 � Present)
25-06 (1970 � Present, 1990 Classic)
250 Savage (1984 Classic)
257 Roberts (1991 � 1995, 1982 Classic)
6.5x55 Swedish (1994 Classic)
6.5mm Rem Mag (1969 � 1973)
260 Rem (1997 � Present)
264 Win Mag (1962 � 1977, 1986 Classic)
270 Win (1962 � Present)
270 WSM (2005)
280 Rem (1962 � 1967, 1991 � Present; 1997 Classic)
7mm Express Rem (1977 -1983)
7mm-08 Rem (1979 � Present, 2001 Classic)
7mm Rem Mag (1962 � Present)
7mm STW (1997 � 2002; 2003 - Present Custom Shop only)
7mm Wby Mag (1991 � 1995, 1991 Classic)
7x57 Mauser (1989 � 1995, 1981 Classic)
7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Mag (2003 � Present)
7mm Rem Ultra Mag (2000 � Present)
30-06 Sprg (1962 � Present)
300 Savage (1991 � 1993, 2003 Classic)
308 Win (1962 � Present, 2005 Classic)
300 WSM (2005)
300 Win Mag (1965 � Present, 1995 Classic)
300 Wby Mag (1989 Classic, 1990 - 2000 standard offering, 2002 � Present Custom Shop only)
300 H&H Mag � 1983 Classic
300 Rem Short Action Ultra Mag (2003 � Present)
300 Rem Ultra Mag (1999 � Present)
8mm Rem Mag (1977 � 1984, 1986 � Present Custom Shop only, 1998 Classic)
8mm Mauser (2004 Classic)
338 Win Mag (1987 Classic, 1988 Custom Shop, 1989 � 2002 standard offering, 2003 Custom Shop only)
338 Rem Ultra Mag (2000 � Present)
35 Whelen (1988 � 2003, 2005; 1988 Classic; 2004 - Custom Shop)
350 Rem Mag (1969 � 1973,1985 � 1986, 1985 Classic)
375 H&H Mag(1962 � 1970 standard offering, 1971 � Present Custom Shop only, 1996 Classic)
375 Rem Ultra Mag (2001 � Present)
416 Rem Mag (1989 � Present Custom Shop only)
458 Win Mag (1962 � 1970 standard offering, 1971 � Present Custom Shop only)

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In 2009, the 700 CDL SF Ltd Edition was offered in .257 Roberts. According to Remington, this was the 4th chambering offered in the annual series: Remington.com

Previous offerings were as follows:

2006: .30-06
2007: .17 Rem Fireball
2008: .260 Rem

According to GunsAmerica.com, the 2010 offering will be a .280 Remington: GunsAmerica.com

Remington also offers the same rifle in non-limited editions in the following chamberings:

.257 Wby Mag
.270 Win
.270 WSM
7mm-08 Rem
7mm Rem Mag
300 WSM

GunsAmerica says the .280 Rem is the next in a series of 25, which seems like a lot for one rifle, but I'd be curious to know if anybody else has heard of this, and if so, what the next offerings will be for 2011 and 2012. (I want it in a .25-06 Rem!!)

I haven't read anything about the CDL SF replacing the 700 Classic Deluxe as the one-chamber-per-year offering, but it stands to reason.

Also, for the fans of Remington and the .257 Weatherby, here's a good side-by-side comparison between the Remington 700 and the Weatherby Mark V: RealGuns.com

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Alpinecrick: From 1978 through 1985 the Remington Model 700 Classic was available in calibers 22-250 Remington, 243 Winchester, 6mm Remington (1978-1983), 7mm Remington Magnum, 270 Winchester and 30/06 Springfield.
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Grasshopper: I am pretty sure those early Remington 700 ADL's in caliber 222 Remington Magnum had sights adorning their sporter weight barrels - did they not?
I guess I could always unscrew the sights from the barrel?
I saw a rather nice Remington 722 in caliber 222 Remington Magnum just a couple of weeks ago at a gunshop out on the west coast (Renton, Washington) - unfortunately my friend that owns the shop knew what he had and was not interested in selling said Rifle!
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Buy a copy of THE 700 BOOK all you questions will be answered.

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Kevinh1157: Could you please CORRECT your informative posting in this one instance: you show the Remington 700 being available in 222 Remington Magnum as being the "Classic" offering in 1993!
You missed by one caliber the 222 Remington was the "Classic" offering in 1993!
One reason I am sure of this is I purchased not ONE but TWO of the 1993 Classics and they both indeed are in caliber 222 Remington, NOT 222 Remington Magnum - as you indicate.
Again the 222 Remington Magnum has not as yet been offered in the Classic line of Model 700's - in fact the 222 Remington Magnum was only offered for a very short time in the 700 Model and then only in the ADL configuration.
Once you kindly correct that (edit it for me) I am going to copy that handy list and keep it with me on my gun scouting travels!
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Oldman1942: No you are not correct in assuming all questions about the Remington 700 will be answered in this book - the MAIN reason being that it was written in 1988 and published in 1989!
Thats 10 years old at least!
Maybe 11 or 12 years old?
AND the cheapest one of these books I could find just now on-line is $89.00 (not including shipping) or a "new" condition copy can be had for $188.00 (not including shipping).
Lots of Remington 700's produced from 1988 to 2,009 (2,010?) - a million or two - wouldn't you think - along with lots of model changes and calibers added etc?
For instance I won a wager from an acquaintance of mine some years ago when he took umbrage as I relayed to him I had a factory Remington 700 26" heavy barrel Varmint Rifle in caliber 17 Remington - he "knew" Remington had never made such a Rifle and cited some book (I assume its the one you are referencing?) that did not mention or show said Rifle.
The wager's settlement had to wait until I could physically carry my Rifle to him and show it to him.
You should have seen the color of his cheeks at the moment of settlement!
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65BR: Pardon my slow reply to your interesting posting of October 9th!
I have been away a lot Hunting Antelope then Mule Deer then Whitetail Deer then Elk and of recent have been Hunting Ducks and Geese - in between all that I had to make a trip out to the west coast which took 10 days to do.
I will comment on your interesting post ASAP - I am tonight entertaining the VarmintSons who are both home from out of state colleges, and who are both intent on commandeering more of my "gun money" to give to their liberal proffessors!!!
Again, will comment later tonight or early tomorrow before the VarmintSons arise from their slumber!
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Originally Posted by kjb1382


According to GunsAmerica.com, the 2010 offering will be a .280 Remington: GunsAmerica.com

I hope that's true! I have the 1997 700 Classic in 280 Rem. I like the 280 Rem. As much as I don't need another "deer size" rifle, I'd probably get a 700 CDL SF in 280 Rem. if they do make them.


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Agree the 700 book is dated but it is the only reference book on them (and 721/722/725) as well. As for $200 for a book, I'm a book publisher and my second biggest seller thus far (after Sixguns by Keith) is an engraving book that the first printing of still sells for $200.(2500 sold and counting).

I have 2 700s now both were 300 H&H Classics that became donors for a 244 H&H and a 400 H&H. My 721 300 H&H is a far superior rifle to either of them "as issued"

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Originally Posted by New_York_Hunter2
Originally Posted by kjb1382


According to GunsAmerica.com, the 2010 offering will be a .280 Remington: GunsAmerica.com

I hope that's true! I have the 1997 700 Classic in 280 Rem. I like the 280 Rem. As much as I don't need another "deer size" rifle, I'd probably get a 700 CDL SF in 280 Rem. if they do make them.


I saw that too. Spoke to my local Remington dealer and told him to put me down for one if it's true.


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The Classic model has not been produced for several years with their current model being call a "Limited Edition". I really hate to see Remington make another 280. It's a great caliber but all current production 280s from Remington have a 1x10 twist which really limits high end bullet weights and optimizing ballistic coefficients.


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