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So what do you guy's and gal's think about an all out humanitarian effort by the U.S. to aid the decimated little country, after yesterday's 7.0 earthquake ??????

With deaths maybe going into the hundreds of thousands!


Phil

I'm figuring on contributing.

If southern CA got hit with the big one, would you want help?

My initial question is from where is the money to come? We're essentially broke, so it's a legitimate question. Just add it to the bill I suppose, and default when it comes due.

Business as usual.

But, regardless, I'll still contribute out of my own pocket.

When disaster strikes, you do what needs to be done and figure out the details later. This isn't like bailouts and health care. People are dying.

it's another tragedy. they need humanitarian aid, for sure.

beyond that, two countries on one little island? how did that ever occur. D.R. has good building codes and little damage. Haiti is about demolished.

one piece of the puzzle is to combine those two countries on the one island, and let D.R. begin the reconstruction effort, imho.

I'd say it's one of the things we do best,.....

Where are the Saudi / Iranian airlifts,.... ?

....The Cuban ....?

... The Venezuelan .....?


.....Mexico ,...?

GTC

for the Religionists amongst us, this might have occurred as a way to point toward USA as a true helper, while some of the others, (Cuba, Venezuela, Carribean Islands, etc), are perhaps well intentioned, but not set to Assist.

makes me wonder if this is a sign that Haiti, as an entity should no longer exist in the future, but should be combined with DR for the betterment of all?

Mike,

With all due respect, I disagree that we are broke financially as a country. Morally yes, financially no. I don't like our debt levels at the point they are now and what is projected any more than you do, but you need to compare debt to equity and not only current debt dollar amounts.

It paints an entirely different picture.

Haiti would logically be combined with the DR, but I doubt the DR wants them. Why would they want to inherit 9 million poverty stricken people along with their moral degeneracy?

any thing such as a solution like that would likely require a post-modern solution?

maybe move as many Haitians to other locales, ..the DR, Mexico, Cuba, Puerto Rico, etc, and then turn the countryside into a eco-tourism hotspot for the rich Nations. kinda like parts of Madagascar?

Utilize private enterprise and investments to restore the pre-Haitian eco-system, and return a type of green paradise on the existing degraded Landscape. Eliminate all Goats, and other exotics, of course.

send UN aid to DR, to pay for, and project Leadership.

Job done, back to the Cave, with a Solar front.

Rock Chuck - a better question is, if California got hit with a big one would you expect help from any of the Latin American countries?

An honest question. How much help did Louisiana get from outside the States after Hurricane Katrina?

Jim

surely, someone was sending Volunteers to drive the school buses in NOLA, but alas, they couldn't get there in time? sorry, off-topic.

Sure lets send a bunch of cash that way,we have extra right?? but not help homeless people,or women with children living in cars,or vets that have no where to go and are suffering from tremendous medical and mental problems but aren't getting the help they need...yeh let's do that...Were loaded... why help our own citizens right?? Let's take care of our own, who desperately need our help first.. Not saying it's not a tragedy,but think about it.

well, let's endeavor to save as many human Souls as possible, in this immediate emergency.

but, beyond that, who can step up to the plate, and consider that little Carribean Island, and it's needs?

Should it be re-addressed, with the appropriate Local Leaders involved?

an Island Nation, divided in two, with risks from Hurricans, and apparently EarthQuakes, and over-population?

is there an Opportunity presenting itself here?? who's Creative and Imaginative? where's the profit, while re-storing the Eco-System??

What equity? We have a debt of over $112 Trillion and a GDP of only $13 Trillion. We have no reserves, except the gold supposedly in Ft. Knox. With current expenditures exceeding income by 40%, and our currency debt based, where's the equity? The 8200 Tonnes of gold purportedly in Ft. Knox won't cover even the public portion of the debt, and if you're talking about public lands, buildings etc, their value would have to increase exponentially to cover the entire $112 Trillion. Even if you confiscated the entire wealth of the nation and cashed it in, it still wouldn't cover the debts and unfunded liabilities, so I ask again, what equity?

Think of it as an all natural form of retro active birth control.

Jim

While certainly the building codes are basically nothing, that quake was only 10km deep so it wouldn't spred out that far.

Yes there are many in this nation in need. However in this country the resorces are available to anyone who needs help and is willing to ask or look for them. The people in Haiti had little before the quake and are now in desparate need of the most basic things like survival, food, and water. I'm sure we can all dig a little deeper if we need to and those who think the need is greater here at home as opposed to Haiti or anywhere else for that matter..well feel free to step up to the plate. 163bc