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Randy...that was a Marlin 39A my pard was packin in that photo... I usually use my Ruger 77/22 VBZ or a .22 handgun..though the old eyes don't get as many with the handgun anymore!

Ingwe

I can verify that this is absolutely true, and going on 22 years for me.

23 for me....


Ingwe

Howdy. Well I lived the plan today. Quail hunted for about 4 hours. It was a nice walk. No quail. Depressing in that I can't recall the last time I went to this place and didn't find at least 1 covey. I'm really afraid the ice storm last year did'em in. Anyway, the girls and I had a nice walk.

After the afternoon nap, it was back to the bench. I will say this gun is consistent. The 165 Nosler BT's and the 180 gr Hornady SP's averaged 1.5" All-in-all, it ain't that bad (I've never cared about the last quarter inch or so of a group), but it does tend to string groups. So. . .

Its all disassembled and is in my gun cradle. I'll be removing the pressure point over the next several days. While I'm at it, the very front of the floor plate is about 1/8" above flush to the wood, so, that'll get corrected too. Even if the groups don't substantially shrink, at least this should eliminate the tendency to string.

I too have a CDL 30-06 that I haven't done anything to other than lighten the trigger.

I tried IMR 4064 as Barnes recommended as the most accurate load for the 168 TSX. The 4064 in my rifle did out shoot both the 4350's, and as many suggested to me, the max load shot the best, 50grns 4064.

I'm headed back to the range tomorrow to try some increased loads 50.5, 51, 51.5, 52. I'll be looking for pressure signs and accuracy, if both of those are OK, then I'll be over the max Barnes recommended.

Their load clocked in right at 2800, so if tomorrow's load pan out, I will then clock them, if they reach 2900 and hold accuracy, that will be my load, if not I'll settle for 2800.

I know your post is more about rifle bedding, but I thought the TSX input might help you out.

Good luck.

Well, I killed the pressure point and finally had a chance to shoot it this afternoon. Group size was reduced by over 30%. YIPPEE! Better still, the groups are now ROUND. Max loads of H4350 and 165 gr NBT's averaged just over an inch and the same under 180gr Hornady SP's average 1.25". I'll give the TSX's a whirl tomorrow.

As for 4064, I have not used that powder and have none on my shelf. I know a lot of guys have used to great success. I'm curious if anyone has used RL19 in their '06's?

congratulations! it seems you found the bedding problem. rifles are much more fun when they are accurate arent they? i have used both 4064 and reloader 19 and while my results weren't nearly as good as imr 4350 yours might vary.-keith

Good news HS...you're off and running now!

Ingwe

Man, in Oklahoma we shoot quail with unplugged 12 ga Remington 1100s!

Expat

Huntaria,

It has astonished me for at least 35 years that Remington continues to put pressure points in their 700 forends, when 700's almost always shoot better without 'em.

But then again, life is full of astonishment.

Kinda like yours when I asked if I should float my M7 CDL...and you said...

" You haven't done that yet..???"


Ingwe

I believe my eyebrows even went up....

Same with the old Sako A series Hunter models. They have pressure points for no good reason.

Can you or anyone else explain ol' Elmer's love of the pressure point.? In his Gun Notes column, he once made the statement "Free floating is for the birds."

I don't recall about pressure points but he believed in full length barrel bedding. He thought it was more accurate. I can't say why.

I'll dig it out of Gun Notes (don't remember if its Vol 1 or 2). But he not only said free floating was for the birds but he did say he preferred (and I'm trying to quote from memory), some "nice up push from the stock".

I too remember Keith liking full length bedding...and Ive actually done that on two rifles, both with short Rigby-esque forends....

Hate to say it...but it worked both times!!!

Ingwe

Ingwe, I'll bet ya a beer that they bedded rifles that way because bullets were not what they are today;they probably set up weird crazy vibrations that were tamed somewhat by full length bedding.....some evidence of this is when you freel-float and glass bed an old pre 64 ,and feed it modern bullets....they shoot like match rifles...even the ones that you don't free float shoot well with modern slugs..Just a guess of course

You may very well have a point there Bob...never thought of it, but I'm sure at least jacket/core concentricity issues have been resolved over the years....especially since the days of Nosler turning bullets on a lathe....
Not to mention monometals, where concentricity is a non-issue..

ingwe

I think so!Maybe not all the barrels were as good either....but I dunno as lots of old barrels show great accuracy today with modern,concentric boolits.