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Yeah it a bad paper.

Dear bear guide,

By hunting the human race has the ability to manage and keep animal populations from rising and falling and is the only animal that can keep nature in balance but its difficult to do in large areas like northern Canada where there needs to be alot more hunting than there is.

I know at one time in Ontario trappers knew how many beaver lodes they had and were alowed to take so many per lodge, the idea to keep the population stable so it would not get disease.

Europeans have been keeping their game populations relatively stable for centuries. They can do it perfectly except nobody has the time to go hunting any more.

I believe Valerius Geist says wolves on Vancouver island (might be another island) are in the process of or have already have wiped out the deer and wolves are doing the same with moose on Isle Royale although I haven't read the studies for a few years. Isle Royal was the one the National geographic used as an example of so-called balance thatnow it has been shown do not exist.

It looks like coyotes are going to wipe out caribou on Newfoundland unless something is done soon. Nature does not have the ability to keep itself in blalance but man does have that ability. Predators are more of a problem on islands than anywhere else.

Dear 378 canuck.

Your bad bear was a hungry bear looking out for its own interests and not a bad bear. Bears are under no more moral obligation to leave the human race off the menu than we are to leave them of the menu.

But its a very good bear story. I would like to know more about it. Is there an official report availbale? Are there any more details or do you have any newspaper refernces, dates etc so I can look it up.

Re-newspapers - Canadian mainstream media has spent decades lying about the behavior of wild animals. The CBC for example kept both David Suzuki and Farley Mowat afloat for years and Mowat is a complete liar and fraud. He got the order of Canada for making up his so-called facts? His Goebbel style big lies were used to teach kids in schoool. I knew his boss Andy Laurie, who was with him in the arctic, during the period he wrote about. Andy told me Mowat's whole sordid tale.

If you read Adolph Murie's book, the wolves of Mount McKinley, you will see where Mowat got his material. The late Frank Banfield told me he gave Mowat that book to read. His book lost in the barrens is just about identical to a book written a century earlier in Labrador.

The internet is cutting mainstream media off at the knees. It no longer has any credibility and acn no longer control and manage information like it once did because people who were at the scene of all kinds of incidents, such as 378canucks bear stroy, can now chime in and say "I was there and this is what really hapened."

I wish 378canuck would give more details about his bear attack including names and dates. Nothing to fear in doing that.

I like the name jointburner, a joint burner who doesn't smoke dope is alot like a bear hunter who doesn't hunt bears.

Talking about the London Free Press.One of the editors is Pierre Berton's son.

Berton was a socialist who spent much of his life trying to get Canadians to stop hunting and trying to take way their guns. But he was a weirdo which no one seems to know about.

A guy from the morality squad in the Toronto police told my best friend, who was a reporter at the TO Star, that Pierre Berton used to hire hookers in Toronto to put him on a dog leash and walk him around a room. He would bark as they beat him with a whip.

I guess that is the kind of recreation he recommended for young Candians in lieu of outdoor sports. Since 378canuck is already a bear hunter who doesn't hunt bears maybe he should try it himself and tell us if it is a suitable substitute.

Hey "jointburner" You had a nice rythem to that post.

All I have is one old photo and the gratitude of an old lady that passed away about 5 years ago. The fish and wildlife didn't charge me but hauled the carcass to the dump and patted themselves on the back for doing a good job. None the less my friend who is still in the LEO knows and talks about this incident every time we get together. I have no animal heads hanging in my house, or bear hides. I really don't care wether you believe me or not. But I'd like to summarize --surely there are bad bears and good bears just as there are good and bad humans. Ok if you don't smoke dope, I take that back. Have agood day.

Pierre Berton Jr. only got resting on his dad's laurels. His opinion is not worth mention in a grade school paper.

Burner,





The topics quoted are my professional alley.

Your statements are blank and false; your style arrogant and repulsive so take this not an invitation to dicuss these issues.


Perhaps you recocnize yourself somewhere in these lines?

"He who knows and knows that he knows is a scholar; respect him."

"He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a pupil; teach him"

"He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool; shun him."


A question on the side - why are always the last the loudest?

Eventually the human race will be able to manage game animals just like they manage farm animals already and can now do so with wild animals in small areas.

There is no overpopulation problems on the YO ranch and the animals do not become extinct.

Management problems are more political than biological.

Dear 378 Canuck. Give me some names, a date and the exact location and I will see what I can find.

What is an LEO?

Dear CMG,

You attack the messenger and not the message because you cannot put an argument together.

You are an incompetent at your own choisen field of endeavour and should seek another line of work.

Dear Burner,

thank you very much for your concern. For now I will stick to my profession in despite of your valued analysis of my competence.

Best regards.

Somebody has to tell you before its too late!

As said, thanks for your concern.

Always glad to help!

#3793737 - Yesterday at 12:50 PM Re: Kutenay [Re: downwindtracker2]
Jburner
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I was reading scientific reports at the same age that you were both reading comic books and finding them difficult to understand.

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I'm surprised that you don't already know the answer to your question!

Jeff

Dear AKjeff,

I like the internet because it pits 10-year-old boys against corporate lawyers on a level playing field and sometimes the lawyers, after years of double martinis, come up lacking.

I'm not sure as to what you are inferring. My lack of perception is likely due to a youth spent reading hook and bullet rags(no comic books for me), instead of scientific manuals.

Jeff

I am just saying that regardless of who you are, and how much education you have, and how many degrees and awards and prizes you have, you better have your ducks in a row when you post or you are going to get eaten alive and spit out on the internet.

In regards to otters. I knew rougly what they did in the winter but was hoping some trappers would pitch in because they are the only people who spend time with wildife in the winter woods.

I used to know lots of these old timers in Canada who couldn't write well or string a sentence together but if you got talking to them while sitting on a beaver dam they knew so much detail that it was kind of like talking to a kind of genius.

The only similar people I have met are African trackers. They can't explain what they are doing but they are sure good at it.

Got to go now. Wife is calling.

You'd do even better talking out of your a$$ if your head wasn't already up there.

Seeing this thread is about otters in winter, I'll leave it at that.