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Great thread, he says. Best as I can tell, this thread is gonna cost me a couple thousand dollars over the next few months. Oh, but I bet the fun at the end will be worth the cost. Dang ya'll are a bad influence. DW Great thread. I've had a pre-64 model 70 in .264 for 25 years now. It loves 63 grains of H4831 and 120 bt's and 125 partitions - both are .5 inch loads.
Just picked up a Montana 1999 in a McMillan and 26 inch barrel off the board here a few months ago and working up loads for it. Last weekend I had the following results:
68 gr. Magnum with 130 Nosler AB's = 3279 fps but 1.2 inch groups
63.5 H4831 with 130 Nosler AB's = 3217 fps and .805 avg. groups
67.5 gr. Retumbo with 120 Barnes TSX= 3182 fps (don't know why so slow) but .566 avg groups.
Going to try some RL25 and Magpro based on some posts here. Thanks!
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The good part is I'm helping the local campfire economy: Redneck(build), Matt Williams(bottom metal), RickBin(stock), CAS(Cerakote). You're all welcome! LOL!!!
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LOL, your lucky if that's all it costs you. when i decided to build a LONG range .264, it probably cost me $4500.. this is one of three custom .264s with a fourth in parts on the shelf... ![[Linked Image]](http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp78/1sikpupi/Picture034.jpg)
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Toad,
I'm thinking maybe our definitions of LONG range may differ a bit. Mine won't be nearly as tricked out as that. Just a M70 pushfeed, #5 Pac-Nor supreme fluted at 26" w/8 twist, McMillan Supergrade, Williams bottom metal, Talley steel rings, Leupold VX-III4.5-14x40 B&C reticle, cerakoted by CAS, all put together by Redneck. I'm sure there's something I left out, but that pretty well covers it.
Nice rig by the way. Helluva brake on that 6.5!
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"For some unfortunates, poisoned by city sidewalks ... the horn of the hunter never winds at all" Robert Ruark, The Horn of the Hunter
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that rifle is just a range toy, not a hunting rifle, so not much downside to the heavy barrel. it is a Krieger 1-8.5" that was in stock at Midway, so it was not a tough sell.
but my others are more portable. i just wanted something to play with at 1K-1 mile while my eyes are still up to the task. i'm glad i did, as it is a learning experience.
but i hunt for the short shot just like everyone else.
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Thanks Toad, I could tell that's what that was for. But I meant x2mosg. Sounds like a sporter weight stock, with a hefty barrel. Just seems like a contrast in styles to me.
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It's more or less a "semi-bean-field" rifle. Redneck and I talked about it and he said if weight wasn't of great concern, he felt a heavier contour would work much better. I don't know how accurate it is, but Pac-Nor's weight calculator says that with the flutes, it'll be less than 1/4 pound heavier than a same length #3. And because ever since I rebarreled by 22-250 with a #3, I wish I had gone a touch heavier. I don't mind another pound of weight for the gain in accuracy and stability. Just personal choices I suppose. It is still a sporter weight contour, but a heavy sporter for sure.
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Somewhere along the line here I read a less than positive post about .264 brass. I've never had issues with the WW brass, but hopefully most of you know that Nosler is now making .264 brass and it is superb. Weight similarity is excellent and it's very consistent. Lasts longer too.
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It is still a sporter weight contour, but a heavy sporter for sure.
I bet you will be happy with it. The 264 ain't supposed to be a handy little brush gun, anyway!
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AWESOME info. Guys I scraped my 6.5x284 build to do a 264WinMag!!! Yer a good man, obviously.. 
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Somewhere along the line here I read a less than positive post about .264 brass. I've never had issues with the WW brass, but hopefully most of you know that Nosler is now making .264 brass and it is superb. Weight similarity is excellent and it's very consistent. Lasts longer too.
Joe Good to know.. I had forgotten about Nosler making brass now, and since I have enough .264WM brass to last my lifetime I didn't search for it there.. Thanks for the tip..
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I've been using Winchester brass, but I heard a couple of times that the Nosler brass was really soft, which made for loose primer pockets a little too easily. However, it's the only .264 brass I can find around me right now and I'm tempted to pick some up anyway.
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I've heard stellar reviews on the Nosler brass as to consistency, and I think it's a little heavier than WW or R-P brass. Only primer pocket stretch I've heard of was with Hornady brass, but never been a problem for me. Of course mine's 416 Rigby which is a low pressure round to start with.
Any special loading techniques that ya'll use with the .264? I'm looking at bushing neck sizing dies and thinking of going that route. Otherwise, SOP. I due use a Hornady COL gauge to determine seating depth.
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Well, I rethroated mine so the 140s didn't take up so much case capacity, which ruined the accuracy, until I seated my bullets way out there again. Most bullets are loaded to 3.4-3.5". I've got .47" of freebore now. I also now use a Redding neck sizer.
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exbio,
Bushing or standard? I'm trying to decide now for myself.
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It's not a bushing die, but I've heard good things about those collet neck sizers from Lee. But it was shooting half inch groups before I started necksizing. I've shot some sub 1/3 inch groups with the neck sizer, but that's also with a different bullet that I hadn't tried with the full length RCBS.
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I use the Lee collet sizer with my 22-250 and like it a lot. They don't make it for the 264WM, or I'd have one on order. And the custom job runs about $60 or $70 I think, and a couple or 3 months to get it.
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Sending a dummy round to Lee today for a crimp die as it's not a stock item. Seated three last night to measure for bushings in neck die and they came in .295, .295, .294. Pretty consistent.
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