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As an owner of one 15 and three 10s, I am about to say the forbidden. The AR platform is obsolete. I just got my Benelli MR-1 yesterday and it is a generation ahead of any AR. No puking in its guts, no clunky gas tube system, shorter, lighter and less moving mass in operation. The ARGO system (used in the M4 and R-1) is simple, clean and rugged. It also shoots sub MOA groups as issued. I'm sure a 308 version will be coming soon...droolin!

One thing for sure, my DPMS Sweet 16 will be sold as soon as I return to WY.

Save your "expert" opinions until you get your hands on one.

First off, your "opinion" here doesn't mean chit to any of us
Your a no nothing blowhard, please leave and take your opinion's with you................FOAD

Ill keep my AR's and M16 thank you.

Good luck with spare parts and accessories.

oldman1942 talking

Could be a start. Of course how modular is that platform? I dunno as I"ve never had it, but I do recall you bragging on it a while back, but evidently you'd never had one before now?

What other calibers are coming. Scope mounts easy?

What ya want for the 15 or the 10s?

So you must have done some extensive testing in the 24 hours you have had it.

Where to start:
My R-1s have seen several 1000 rounds with no "parts needed"
Seems the USMC is finding the M4 to work just fine (same gas system)
You should keep your ARs and M16s....heaven forbid you should try anything new.
What accessories do you suggest I need and can't get? Maybe lights, lasers, bayonets and all the other crap wannabes clutter up their rifles with.
Jimmy, didn't you teachers ever tell you that attacking the person with the opinion will never win a debate? Not covered in the GED?
You own how many MR-1s? You have even seen one? When in doubt and having nothing else to offer call names...it makes you a really effective advocate.
Hope you're all around, cash in hand when I put my ARs up for sale....(LAFFIN)
Here's a preview of two of them plus a NIB lower and a couple of my R-1s:

The AR15 is to rifles what the 1911 is to pistols.

It's not going anywhere.

47 years in service in various stages of evolution. It's got to be the longest serving standard-issue military rifle in our country's history.

Good luck finding someone to buy your crappy AR's on this site...

I'm still waiting to be convinced that the M1Garand is obsolete.

whelennut

Excuse me....I need to go filet a grouper.

+1

How much do the Benelli MR-1's cost?

+2 and add the M14

Around $1200

Greg, you advocate for ARs but mine are crappy? Why don't you pack up your sorry AZZ and take a trip down to DPMS and tell them what crap they make? You might clear the sidewalk before you landed. They will sell because they are fine ARs with valuable extras, and BTW, this site is not the only venue to sell guns (DUH)!

MM, agree they aren't going anywhere, heck we still have tricked out M-14s doing duty as the military has been too stupid to get a decent 308 semi-auto in wide issue. That doesn't change the fact that the ARGO system is superior to the "puke in your mouth" AR system (As your fellow Marines knew when they selected the M4 shotgun).

Resistance to change is human nature but Don't forget all the stories of the Devil Dogs in the Pacific who followed the Army guys around to pick up their M-1s (and dump their 03s) when the Army guys got shot.

I'd love to put a pile of M 14s and a second pile of M 4 223s in front of a bunch of Marines "over there" with a free choice of which to carry.......

Whelennut. Agree, still think my ancient, obsolete NM M-1 would clean the clock of any 223 AR once we got out to serious shooting distances (300+). You can also buttstroke someone with it and the stock won't break off.

Palmetto mine was $1300 delivered w/FFL fee and paid by CC. There are cheaper ARs and a lot more expensive ones. Benelli will also be "legal" in many areas that ban the "evil AR".
Hopefully (as with the R-1) they will offer barrel interchangability so the whole 223 base family could appear over time and when the 308 version comes out...oh boy! A 338 Federal version with a low X scope. Backpacker/hunter's dream out where I live with Mr Griz or for Elk.

Finally to you utes, just because you disagree, does not confer "being right" on you. It just means you disagree, so grow up and realize people can differ and still be civil. I happen to like the 300 H&H but that doesn't mean I won't hunt with my buddy who shoots a 300 WinMag.

oldman1942 talking......still

Some may think the AR is ugly but i truly believe they are beautiful rifle. I'm not resistant to change but i will stick with the AR platform. The AR will be obsolete when the last enemy of this country is buried and then it will still be the best coyote hunting rifle you can have in your gun safe. Given the choice in combat i would take the M14 and 1911 over all others.

Have you guys seen the scam Oldman is pulling in the Classifieds?

Buy a rifle now (if you like ridiculous prices) and he'll ship them to you in JUNE.