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Hey now doggonit...them were 2 sheep herders from Montana! Still can't beleive they let that libtard jackass film that and say it was WY cry


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Originally Posted by ringworm
just so you know...
At 500 yards the Bravo target is 1/2 the thickness of the front sight post. good luck making hits at 1000 with irons.


Width of front sight does NOT matter in making hits. My front sight post for 1000 is the width of the FRAME... and the bull is already 44 inches.. IIRC the frame is about 72 inches. No problem smacking the 20 inch 10 ring as long as the wind doesn't get you.

The width of my front sight at 600 yards is equivalent to 36 inches, and I'm shooting sub MOA groups, calling my shots to within inches at that range, and being able to hit the spotter thats 3 inches....


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Originally Posted by rost495
Originally Posted by ringworm
just so you know...
At 500 yards the Bravo target is 1/2 the thickness of the front sight post. good luck making hits at 1000 with irons.


Width of front sight does NOT matter in making hits. My front sight post for 1000 is the width of the FRAME... and the bull is already 44 inches.. IIRC the frame is about 72 inches. No problem smacking the 20 inch 10 ring as long as the wind doesn't get you.

The width of my front sight at 600 yards is equivalent to 36 inches, and I'm shooting sub MOA groups, calling my shots to within inches at that range, and being able to hit the spotter thats 3 inches....


Oops. Someone stepped in it.

That Jeff could post scores to back up his claims, is a given.

Damned facts....




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I'm 10 for 10 at the 500 year after year. with an old banged up M16 that rattled like a paint can and 55gr FMJ off a stripper clip.
i sure would like to try that match gun, tailored ammo sunny day shooting...
Do the DI's throw rocks at your kevlar while you shoot?


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My , my, sure easy to wind up you AR lovers.
(At least the ones that are not already on ignore (GRIN))
As I said, I own ARs already, none of you have ever shot or own an MR-1 or an R-1 or a M1014 so, as usual it's just smoke being blown by wannabe experts. I also note the stalkers from ARAIG coming over here to carry on their stupid uninformed comments.

ARs will continue to sell to the wannabe military types, 99% of who never served. For those of us who did and had the opportunity to run the shiet out of M 16s, you can have them. Not a bad 50 year old design but progress has been made as evidenced to the frantic conversion to piston operation that is still inferior to the ARGO system.

For the few of you who read, you might want to read the recent test of the MR-1 and see what a terrible score in got. Anyone dumb enough to think Benelli makes bad guns of any kind has a room temp I.Q. and doesn't own/couldn't afford one in any case.

So I'm done with the "children's hour" on this thread as NOT ONE of you brats has come up with anything but subjective idiocy based on looking at a picture.... but what else is to expected from those who call names, hurl insults and can't back up a single claim with any verifiable facts? Time for your cookies, milk and Ridlin.

For those of you not adverse to being burdened with the facts:

"The M4 was the first gas-operated shotgun produced by Benelli. Its function is designed around an entirely new method called the "auto regulating gas operated" (ARGO) system. The ARGO system on the M4 opened the door for Benelli's development of the R1 rifle line. The design uses two stainless-steel self-cleaning pistons located just ahead of the chamber to function opposite the rotating bolt, thereby eliminating the need for the complex mechanisms found on other gas-actuated automatics. Benelli accomplishes this level of reliability through the simplicity of the mechanism. The ARGO is a short-stroke system that incorporates only four parts. It consists of two symmetrical shrouds containing two small steel gas pistons."

on the MR-1
"A combat carbine has to perform the first time, every time. The ultra-reliable ARGO (Auto-Regulating-Gas-Operated) system incorporated into the new Benelli MR 1 does it for the U.S. military, and now can be the centerpiece of an effective home defense plan. The MR 1 rifle, Benelli�s latest offering, is chambered in 5.56mm NATO (.223 Rem.) and uses the battle-proven ARGO system-the same system developed by Benelli for the M1014 and used for over a decade in multiple conflicts by the United States Marine Corps.

The sights are a military-style aperture, adjustable for windage and elevation in the field, using only a cartridge rim. A Picatinny rail allows mounting of both conventional and night-vision sights, while retaining metallic-sight capability. All steel parts are black phosphated and aluminum parts are hard-anodized in a matte finish for low visibility and corrosion resistance. The Benelli MR 1 carbine comes standard with a five-round magazine, and can also accept standard M16 magazines. An optional Picatinny tri-rail forend kit is available for mounting a laser aiming device, front handle, illuminator and other accessories.

The MR 1 features a stainless steel, self-cleaning piston that operates directly against the proven rotating bolt, thereby eliminating the need for complex linkages found on other inferior gas systems. This piston-driven system (ARGO), perfected by Benelli, incorporates a gas port located just forward of the chamber where the gases are hotter and cleaner, resulting in less fouling and more reliable cycling. In function testing the MR 1 exceeded the military requirements without malfunction. The result is a Benelli carbine with Marine-tough reliability able to function under the harshest environmental conditions."

OF COURSE "THEY" ARE ALL WRONG AND YOU ARE RIGHT ALTHOUGH NONE, NADA, ZERO OF YOU OWN ANY ARGO SYSTEM GUNS. MAYBE OBAMA HAS A SPOT FOR A "MILITARY WEAPONS CZAR"....YOU HAVE ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS..... COMPLETE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ETC.. (LAFFIN!)

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Evident by your own post, you didn't own one of those, the R1, until just the other day....

At least you can get benelli repair support when their shotguns break. We had 2 break one duck season, I simply handed over my other 11-87 and the guys kept shooting. Another loaner and off we sent 2 benelli shotguns off for repair. Ejector on both. A short 4 months later they were back, about 3 months after duck season was over.
But then don't get me started on Zeiss service... though they are by far some of the best glass out there, IE I'd spend 700 on a Z LONG before dumping it into a Bushnell product, the customer service is pretty slow...


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Originally Posted by ringworm
I'm 10 for 10 at the 500 year after year. with an old banged up M16 that rattled like a paint can and 55gr FMJ off a stripper clip.
i sure would like to try that match gun, tailored ammo sunny day shooting...
Do the DI's throw rocks at your kevlar while you shoot?


Umm, I've done enough shooting with the actual issue M16s in civilian qual courses and their issue ball ammo to know that simply hitting that target at 500 isn't really an issue for a good shot. The triggers on the 3 shot burst guns are interesting to say the least though.

As to tailored ammo and match guns, yep. As to sunny day shooting, well we shoot regardless until lighting is within a 5 mile radius. I've done that when its below freezing, to over 100, and pouring so hard the targets "melt" and wind blowing so hard that the 2x4 target frames snap in half from Lake Erie winds.

We never shot those targets just to hit them, you have to have a group on the target so you have some leeway of wind calls, and you have 50 seconds exposure to expend as much ammo as you can at one time starting at 600 yards and then moving in. And to top that off I was swing gunner which meant my duty was to empty my first mag(typically of 18) into the one target, reload, and regain a new NPA and dump the last mag into a second target.

Did they throw rocks at us? Nope never did. But if you are concentrating on what you should be, you don't realize things like hot brass burning into your skin or a myriad of other things, you are in your own world and nothing but shooting. If you are aware of them throwing rocks, they you'd understand you are not shooting correctly as the sub conscious mind can do only one thing at once. If its distracted by rocks, it concentrates on avoiding the rocks rather than shooting correctly.



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As far as not having the $ to buy one, i have seen your gunbroker ads...all of them. If you add the totals of all them together you STILL wouldnt add up to just 1 of my machineguns. I still dont want a unproven rifle. Your going off what others say....the people who make $ off you buying their product, so its in their best interest to make the tests fall in their favor or exaggerate.

If your happy with your toy, then so be it, its NOT gonna be a replacement for the M16, you may have been in Veitnam, but i bet i have slung more lead from a M16 then you have. But im just a wanna be.

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Originally Posted by ringworm
I'm 10 for 10 at the 500 year after year. with an old banged up M16 that rattled like a paint can and 55gr FMJ off a stripper clip.
i sure would like to try that match gun, tailored ammo sunny day shooting...
Do the DI's throw rocks at your kevlar while you shoot?


They did, and I did quite well out to 500, thank you.

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Originally Posted by oldman1942
My , my, sure easy to wind up you AR lovers.
(At least the ones that are not already on ignore (GRIN))
As I said, I own ARs already, none of you have ever shot or own an MR-1 or an R-1 or a M1014 so, as usual it's just smoke being blown by wannabe experts. I also note the stalkers from ARAIG coming over here to carry on their stupid uninformed comments.

ARs will continue to sell to the wannabe military types, 99% of who never served. For those of us who did and had the opportunity to run the shiet out of M 16s, you can have them. Not a bad 50 year old design but progress has been made as evidenced to the frantic conversion to piston operation that is still inferior to the ARGO system.

For the few of you who read, you might want to read the recent test of the MR-1 and see what a terrible score in got. Anyone dumb enough to think Benelli makes bad guns of any kind has a room temp I.Q. and doesn't own/couldn't afford one in any case.

So I'm done with the "children's hour" on this thread as NOT ONE of you brats has come up with anything but subjective idiocy based on looking at a picture.... but what else is to expected from those who call names, hurl insults and can't back up a single claim with any verifiable facts? Time for your cookies, milk and Ridlin.

For those of you not adverse to being burdened with the facts:

"The M4 was the first gas-operated shotgun produced by Benelli. Its function is designed around an entirely new method called the "auto regulating gas operated" (ARGO) system. The ARGO system on the M4 opened the door for Benelli's development of the R1 rifle line. The design uses two stainless-steel self-cleaning pistons located just ahead of the chamber to function opposite the rotating bolt, thereby eliminating the need for the complex mechanisms found on other gas-actuated automatics. Benelli accomplishes this level of reliability through the simplicity of the mechanism. The ARGO is a short-stroke system that incorporates only four parts. It consists of two symmetrical shrouds containing two small steel gas pistons."

on the MR-1
"A combat carbine has to perform the first time, every time. The ultra-reliable ARGO (Auto-Regulating-Gas-Operated) system incorporated into the new Benelli MR 1 does it for the U.S. military, and now can be the centerpiece of an effective home defense plan. The MR 1 rifle, Benelli�s latest offering, is chambered in 5.56mm NATO (.223 Rem.) and uses the battle-proven ARGO system-the same system developed by Benelli for the M1014 and used for over a decade in multiple conflicts by the United States Marine Corps.

The sights are a military-style aperture, adjustable for windage and elevation in the field, using only a cartridge rim. A Picatinny rail allows mounting of both conventional and night-vision sights, while retaining metallic-sight capability. All steel parts are black phosphated and aluminum parts are hard-anodized in a matte finish for low visibility and corrosion resistance. The Benelli MR 1 carbine comes standard with a five-round magazine, and can also accept standard M16 magazines. An optional Picatinny tri-rail forend kit is available for mounting a laser aiming device, front handle, illuminator and other accessories.

The MR 1 features a stainless steel, self-cleaning piston that operates directly against the proven rotating bolt, thereby eliminating the need for complex linkages found on other inferior gas systems. This piston-driven system (ARGO), perfected by Benelli, incorporates a gas port located just forward of the chamber where the gases are hotter and cleaner, resulting in less fouling and more reliable cycling. In function testing the MR 1 exceeded the military requirements without malfunction. The result is a Benelli carbine with Marine-tough reliability able to function under the harshest environmental conditions."

OF COURSE "THEY" ARE ALL WRONG AND YOU ARE RIGHT ALTHOUGH NONE, NADA, ZERO OF YOU OWN ANY ARGO SYSTEM GUNS. MAYBE OBAMA HAS A SPOT FOR A "MILITARY WEAPONS CZAR"....YOU HAVE ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS..... COMPLETE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ETC.. (LAFFIN!)


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If oldman had half the experience packing (let alone using)the M4/M16 series that the resoled boots I am currently wearing do, he would still not even be qualified to be my driver.


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Doltman also sent me the PM informing me I was on ignore.

Truly a bizarre individual.


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Originally Posted by Rancho_Loco
Doltman also sent me the PM informing me I was on ignore.

Truly a bizarre individual.


He has to tell you that he's ignoring you?

Shouldn't he just, well, uh.... um.... ignore you?


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I find it interesting that someone considers a 1500 dollar rifle out of the economic reach of someone else. Bragging about owning one and the supposed tax bracket that allegedly puts you in - RIGHT after mentioning selling 3 other POS rifles to afford it is hilarious.



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He's an arrogant oldbastard. This is trolling thread just like the BS ad in the classified.

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watch it shameless will call you on that remark! laugh


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Color me not giving a pelosi! shocked

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