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Don't make me do it....


Ohhhh......OK....





Ingwe

Ok thanks.... now I puked my biscuits out and am leaving to get some work done.

This is taken from his DPMS ad on Gunbroker

"[Information added 08/22/2009 8:32:13 PM]
Look, folks $700 will not buy this rifle so stop the silly bids. The rifle alone w/o the upgrades cost more than $700 so stop smokin rope and get serious. The next go round insulting bids will get blocked."

His brand of diplomacy sure isn't helping him any!

Oldman..



Ingwe

Maybe he sighted it in at 25 ft?

[quote=oldman1942]As an owner of one 15 and three 10s, I am about to say the forbidden. The AR platform is obsolete. I just got my Benelli MR-1 yesterday and it is a generation ahead of any AR. No puking in its guts, no clunky gas tube system, shorter, lighter and less moving mass in operation. The ARGO system (used in the M4 and R-1) is simple, clean and rugged. It also shoots sub MOA groups as issued. I'm sure a 308 version will be coming soon...droolin!

One thing for sure, my DPMS Sweet 16 will be sold as soon as I return to WY.quote"





That whole "puking in its guts" thing was because the rifle was designed to operate with stick powder and the military decided that ball powder was the way they would run it.
Not the designers problem! The troops were also short on cleaning equipment. Not their fault! Keeping the rifle clean is always hard when you are not getting enough sleep, getting shot at, poorly trained. This has been the case ever since the Brown Bess musket was used 200 years ago.
whelennut

Funny how the owner of ONE AR15 can proclaim they are junk basically....

As to the adds, yeah the gun costs more without the additional junk. But it didn't cost more if you were talking dealer cost.....

They are wanna bee rifles, and toy's.

A toy is ok, and cool to play with, most of the wanna bee's or experimentors tend to get over them.

So I'd say 60+ percent of folks will get one and play with it, and keep one, but after a while they tend not to be the long term go to when hunting because of what they stand for.

chrome lined barrel? Chromed chamber? SS piston I think.

Can you find me my quote where I said ARs were "junk"?
M 16s don't have pistons in case you missed it, nor do any standard common issue ARs in US service.
Not one of you "experts" can seem to answer the question as to why all the manufacturers are rushing to piston guns if pukers are so great. CAN YOU OR NOT?
Not one of you "experts" can site any extended duty test where a puker was superior or even equal to a piston gun. CAN YOU OR NOT?

So since you have nothing but opinions it's the usual hot air BS.

For those who like to be equipped with FACTS (perish the thought), test results (including the Benelli ARGO system) are available and guess what? The pukers LOST EVERY FING ONE!

Anybody read/watch BlackHawk down? Notice the last man standing to win the CMOH was NOT fielding a puker? Wonder why?

It will be tough to swallow all your cowdroppings when the HK wins the contract, now won't it? (Already in use by some serious soldiers).

As for the stupid pictures, here's one that captures most of you perfectly:

In the movie? HA! funny stuff.

oldman1942 flapping his gums again here to eh? BTW oldman I see your guns on GB are selling like wildfire......NOT !

Oh, I don't know, you keep talking about them using the honorific "puker." So I would think that you are saying they are junk.



Correct, they don't need pistons.



It's called marketing, perhaps you're not familiar with the concept. This is where you have a product to sell, so you create a need for it, real or imagined. Pistons are superior to DI, just ask anybody who makes a piston-driven AR, they'll tell you. Armalite does not make one, and they (rightly) consider the AR-180 a second rate product, read the story. I'm not aware that Colt makes one. But if all your competition is making one, in this day an age of me-too'ism, some people think it's important to make one or have one. I don't.



Jet-powered ARs are superior to piston-powered ARs, by virtue of the fact they are more accurate and lighter.



Many thing wrong here. First, one does not "WIN" the CMOH, one is awarded the CMOH.
Second, third and fourth; Randy Shughart and Gary Gordon were part of the Delta Force Sniper team and in 1993 there was no AR-based sniper rifle. Instead Randy Shughart had the semi-automatic M14 that was in use at that time.


I'm not interested in learning about your favorite food. Please keep such things to yourself.

I do like your signature/avatar:




Do I get to join that elite group of people that ignore you now?

ETA: To the rest of you, I apologize for the tenor of the above post; for some reason this guy irks me.

Here's a fact for ya Dumbass You ain't sellin chit on Gunbroker.

I feel like Im missing out on something...


Ingwe

You stupid arrogant ass. Do you really think that Gary Gordan died first because his gun "puked"??? Mike Durant used it until it ran out of ammo after Randy Shughart brought it to him. I have no idea if this was in the movie or not.

Did you know that your are 10x more annoying than anyone over at ARAIG? I don't even like that site but I have learned a lot (even from Larry). No one pays attention to you because you are such an ass. You may be right sometime but no one is ever going to believe you unless you stop acting like a clown.

Yep....I'm missing the phun.....


Ingwe

I know I shouldn't feed the trolls and I usually stay out of these types of threads but he is really begining to annoy the chit out of me.

Line forms to the left for that......


Ingwe