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Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? #3820890 02/21/10
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 52,680 North of Liberalism in Wyoming eh76 OP Campfire Kahuna
OP eh76 Campfire Kahuna Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 52,680 North of Liberalism in Wyoming	In looking for dies for this gun I am finding different sets and and am not sure which is correct: https://shop.rcbs.com/WebConnect/Ma...amp;screenlabel=index&productId=2591 https://shop.rcbs.com/WebConnect/Ma...amp;screenlabel=index&productId=2709 http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/t...cm_pla=1230102&cm_ite=0031457215795a There is a very big difference in cost. Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.

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Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? eh76 #3821365 02/21/10
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Paul39 Campfire Outfitter P Joined: May 2002 Posts: 10,639	I have a .45-90 Sharps and a set of the RCBS Legacy dies. Danged if I know what difference there might be. There's nothing very complex about a .45-90, so far as I can tell. With my Sharps, I very seldom FL size anyhow. I've never used the RCBS seater die, as I use a Redding Competition seater. Paul Stupidity has its way, while its cousin, evil, runs rampant.

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? Paul39 #3821824 02/21/10
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OP eh76 Campfire Kahuna Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 52,680 North of Liberalism in Wyoming	With a levergun FL resizing will be a must I am afraid. Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? eh76 #3821923 02/21/10
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Paul39 Campfire Outfitter P Joined: May 2002 Posts: 10,639	Wasn't suggesting that you wouldn't have to FL size for a lever gun. Just noting that a straight case like a .45-90 isn't any big deal as far as sizing goes. One thing that can be an issue is the area just in front of the rim. Sometimes if a case chambers tight, some adjustment has to be made like trimming a bit off the bottom of the die. Depends on the particular chamber and die. Still, you won't know until you try it. you might be surprised. Heck, I don't have any first hand experience with lever guns. Just saying that I've never had a fit problem with my single shots, and have found the .45-90 to be not at all fussy. Paul Stupidity has its way, while its cousin, evil, runs rampant.

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? Paul39 #3822084 02/21/10
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OP eh76 Campfire Kahuna Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 52,680 North of Liberalism in Wyoming	Thanks for the tips. Going to pick up a set of the RCBS Legacy dies. Don't understand the huge difference in price on the RCBS website. Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.

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Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? eh76 #3822088 02/21/10
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BrentD Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 11,738 MN, WI, IL, MI, KS, GA, AZ, IA	You'd save a pile of cash to try a set of Lyman dies and at least as singleshots go, you lose nothing to the .45-90 Last edited by BrentD; 02/21/10. Save an elk, shoot a cow.

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? BrentD #3822134 02/21/10
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OP eh76 Campfire Kahuna Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 52,680 North of Liberalism in Wyoming	Brent, The RCBS Legacy dies are $40from JSC, Lyman are $43 from the same source. I am thinking the high dollar RCBS set is carbide which I don't need. Thanks for the suggestion though. Keith Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? eh76 #3822332 02/21/10
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BrentD Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 11,738 MN, WI, IL, MI, KS, GA, AZ, IA	I thought the RCBS were much more expensive. Sounds like you had it all figured. Brent Save an elk, shoot a cow.

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? BrentD #3822430 02/21/10
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OP eh76 Campfire Kahuna Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 52,680 North of Liberalism in Wyoming	RCBS has 2 different sets which is what has me a bit confused. One said 19304 - 3 DIE STEEL SET 45-90-2.4" SHARPS STRAIGHT and the other 56562 - .45-90 WIN 3-DIE STEEL SET Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? eh76 #3822524 02/21/10
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sharpsguy Campfire Regular S Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,867	Get the Lyman dies. They will work from the get go. The RCBS may not.

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Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? eh76 #3822657 02/21/10
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Ranch13 Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,275 wyoming	Keith when you get the die thing sorted out pm your mailing addy I'll send you up some 350 gr fp bullets. the most expensive bullet there is isn't worth a plug nickel if it don't go where its supposed to. www.historicshooting.com

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? sharpsguy #3822693 02/21/10
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OP eh76 Campfire Kahuna Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 52,680 North of Liberalism in Wyoming	Originally Posted by sharpsguy Get the Lyman dies. They will work from the get go. The RCBS may not. Why is that? Shorter sizer body? Originally Posted by Ranch13 Keith when you get the die thing sorted out pm your mailing addy I'll send you up some 350 gr fp bullets. Ranch 13 thank you.. Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? eh76 #3831113 02/24/10
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EthanEdwards Campfire Kahuna Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 54,284 Parts unknown...	I've never had a 45-90. Could you use 45-70 dies? I use 44 Spec. dies for .44 Mag...

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? EthanEdwards #3831348 02/24/10
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OP eh76 Campfire Kahuna Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 52,680 North of Liberalism in Wyoming	Not sure...I have a set of 45/70 dies, but would buy a set of 45/90 dies anyway. Call me strange but I like a set for each rifle. Set them once and leave them. Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? eh76 #3832482 02/24/10
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Paul39 Campfire Outfitter P Joined: May 2002 Posts: 10,639	Yes, you can use .45-70 dies, but obviously not for FL sizing. I use a Lyman neck die and a Redding Benchrest seater, both in .45-70. Both work fine for my .45-90. Come to think about it, I can't rule out a .45-70 FL die, only because I've never tried it. Depending on tolerances all the way around, it might work. Who knows? Paul Stupidity has its way, while its cousin, evil, runs rampant.

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? Paul39 #3833502 02/24/10
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EvilTwin Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,269 Upstate NY	Paul, Keith has a lever action. Full length sizing is likely a necessity. Be afraid,be VERY VERY afraid ad triarios redisse My Buddy eh76 speaks authentic Frontier Gibberish!

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? EvilTwin #3834721 02/25/10
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Paul39 Campfire Outfitter P Joined: May 2002 Posts: 10,639	Yeah, I know. I acknowledged that, but hedged a bit as you never really know unless you try it. I was just responding to Cole's question by saying that my .45-70 dies work fine for everything except FL sizing of .45-90 cases. Elkhunter will probably be best served by a decent set of .45-90 dies, like was mentioned in earlier responses. Last I checked, Buffalo Arms offers a special order Redding Competition seater for the .45-90, but it costs more than a regularly cataloged .45-70. I use the .45-70 and it works fine. Might depend on the press a guy has, and specifically the throat depth. Paul Stupidity has its way, while its cousin, evil, runs rampant.

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? Paul39 #3834931 02/25/10
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OP eh76 Campfire Kahuna Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 52,680 North of Liberalism in Wyoming	I am still wondering why RCBS wants 3 times the money for one set over another. May have to contact them to get the reason. I'll get a set of dies, but it might be a while. Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? eh76 #3835008 02/25/10
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Ranch13 Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,275 wyoming	The RCBS legacy dies have the third die, that is their version of the lyman M die. A most usefull thing to have as it can be used for both flaring the case mouth and powder compression. Depending on the load and bullet oft times can be done all at once. I just got a set of those for 38-55 from Cabela's 45$ and change. the most expensive bullet there is isn't worth a plug nickel if it don't go where its supposed to. www.historicshooting.com

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? Ranch13 #3835292 02/25/10
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OP eh76 Campfire Kahuna Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 52,680 North of Liberalism in Wyoming	The hi dollar set has the 3rd die also Here are the 2 I am talking about, tell me the difference.. https://shop.rcbs.com/WebConnect/Ma...amp;screenlabel=index&productId=2709 https://shop.rcbs.com/WebConnect/Ma...amp;screenlabel=index&productId=2591 Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? eh76 #3835310 02/25/10
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Ranch13 Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,275 wyoming	120$ the most expensive bullet there is isn't worth a plug nickel if it don't go where its supposed to. www.historicshooting.com

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? Ranch13 #3835415 02/25/10
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OP eh76 Campfire Kahuna Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 52,680 North of Liberalism in Wyoming	You funny! Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? eh76 #3835932 02/25/10
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Ranch13 Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,275 wyoming	Just glad to be some help.... the most expensive bullet there is isn't worth a plug nickel if it don't go where its supposed to. www.historicshooting.com

Re: Winchester 1886 Repro 45-90...which dies? Ranch13 #3836194 02/25/10
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OP eh76 Campfire Kahuna Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 52,680 North of Liberalism in Wyoming	I just knew someone would come up with that, but I figured it would be someone like Les. Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.

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