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And they do like them big wallets down south...
The CENTER will hold.
Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two
FÜCK PUTIN!
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What about low light which has the edge and why the 2X10X40 or The 3X15X42
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No clue. I only have a 2-10 currently.
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just got mine mounted on my TC encore. Looks good. Hope to get it out next weekend and compare to my Kahles KX. Will report findings then.
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The only problem I have with that scope is all the huge billboard advertising logos on it. What the heck were they thinking with that?
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what does it matter? logo, no logo?
one quick q...yes this will show my ignorance.
what exactly is parralax? i have read of this and since the 3-15X42 doesnt have an adjustment, what could the ramifications be? Optically, it is very impressive!
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Parallax is when the target image and reticle image do not lie in the same plane. A given scope is parallax free for one distance to the target, and generally the higher the magnification the more apparent the parallax. Scopes designed with ultimate precision in mind which are often of higher magnification allow for their parallax free distance to be adjusted.
When there is significant parallax present you can make the target and reticle appear to move relative to one another by moving your head/eye behind the scope.
I have a very accurate 223 for which the 3-15x42 would be a nice fit, but the lack of a parallax adjustment immediately took it out of consideration.
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At what yardage does this make an impact, if the optics are set parallax free at 100 meters? 300, 500 yards?
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It affects things closer too.
What effect parallax has at a given distance depends on how much is present and how consistent the shooter is. If the shooter is exactly centered behind the reticle for every shot then there's no problem. But achieving that is going to be troublesome.
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So proper 'cheek weld' is a def must.
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Whether your cheek is "welded" to the stock or if you shoot head upright it's being consistent shot to shot that's important always, particularly so if you're dealing with noticeable parallax.
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Ok, initial range trip is complete, and the results are good. I mounted the new Minox on my Coleman-built 223. This rifle is a legit .5 MOA rifle. For those that may be interested, I also stopped by the local Academy to see if I could find the correct Butler Creek flip-ups. A number 11 works on the ocular, and a 30 fits the objective. Here it is set up at the range... After boresighting, I fired a shot, made an adjustment, and with my second shot I was sighted in. I fired a couple more shots to verify my zero and then moved to the target I designed to test the adjustments. (If anybody wants one of these, shoot me a PM with your email address and I can send you the pdf version.) I have to admit, I screwed up with my adjustments the first time around (I was counting clicks and think I got off somewhere), plus I forgot to take an initial shot at the X. The shots that have X's through them were my first attempt at running the box. I scrapped that plan and figured I'd do it right the second time around. I rezeroed on another target and then re-set the turrets so that instead of counting clicks, I could just twist to the correct number (there's an idea huh? ). Shot No. 1 was at the X which verified my zero. Then I twisted down 4 MOA and left 4 MOA and got shot 2. Twisted 8 MOA left for shot 3, 8 MOA up for shot 4, 8 MOA right for shot 5, then left 4 MOA and down 4 MOA for shot 6. As you can see, it worked like a charm. The target is a 1" grid with 1" diameter circles.
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That is awesome tracking. Did you take another shot at zero after going around the horn? It looks like one hole. I'll do the same with my 3-15x42 when it stops snowing and I can get to the range.
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That is awesome tracking. Did you take another shot at zero after going around the horn? It looks like one hole. I'll do the same with my 3-15x42 when it stops snowing and I can get to the range. The shot numbered 1 was my initial shot at the X. No. 6 was the shot when I returned to zero.
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I was pulling your leg. That is some awesome tracking going back to zero after all of those adjustments.
The weather this weekend is going to be perfect for outdoor activities. You have me fired up about shooting my new to me rig.
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How many MOA per revolution of the turret?
Sorry if this was answered somewhere and I missed it.
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If I'm seeing my pictures correctly on Part 2 of my review, it looks like 15 MOA per turn.
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Is there a Part 2 to the review? I am interested in this very scope.
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I think Part 2 was just further down in the post where I tested the tracking. I don't remember ever making another post.
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