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Its the only thing with sloping shoulders that I consider "sexy"..... Ingwe So glad that you clarified that for us -- my shoulders slope. . . . . . . . . . or is that droop?
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Dooooood! Ingwe
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Course Ingwe is right.... The best 300's are the H&H and the Weatherby.....
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Course Ingwe is right.... The best 300's are the H&H and the Weatherby..... Weatherby?.....Bob, we gotta talk.... hopefully over a few cold ones..... Ingwe
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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i shot a hog with my dad's weatherby one time at 20 yds. damn bullet just bounced off and the hog ranoff
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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Course Ingwe is right.... The best 300's are the H&H and the Weatherby..... Weatherby?.....Bob, we gotta talk.... hopefully over a few cold ones..... LOL! Ingwe
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I'm thinking at 500 yds a 300 magnum shooting a 200 grain bullet is better equipment than a 30/06 with a 180 grain bullet. But ONLY if your up to the task of shooting 500 yds. I know that I wouldn't try it. Best of luck...
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With the modern ballistic drop compensation scopes like a Leupold Boone & Crockett reticle for example, they can be set to drop the bullet right in at 400, 450, or 500 yards. So the advantage of higher velocity for flat shooting is not as important as it used to be! In fact this scope has a special setting for the slower game bullets like a 180 30-06.
If you are worried about the sharp recoil of a 300 win mag vs a milder 30-06 you could split the difference in recoil and shoot a 180 300 WSM. Happy Hunting
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For the guys that are advocating the 300 H&H- Would you get that in a cap lock or flintlock? Royce
Last edited by Royce; 02/26/10.
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I favor the 06 for one among an arsenal of "several" rifles which might be well covered quite well by the 300. I just rarely need a rifle that heavy. If I need the power of more recoil, I step up in bore size as well. This guy didn't stop a 190 cup and core run diagonally through at 399 yards.
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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For the guys that are advocating the 300 H&H- Would you get that in a cap lock or flintlock? Royce Fred, that was mean...... Ingwe
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Laker............I`d say that you`d be happy with either.
For the 300 Win, can you handle the added recoil? If you don`t reload, willing to pay extra for 300 factory ammo? If you do reload, willing to pay extra for more powder and 300 brass?
But as the `ol saying goes, "no deal is a good deal, unless you get what you want."
Assuming you`re not concerned with added recoil, ammo cost or reloading costs, there are two factors to the 300`s favor. More down range energy and flatter bullet trajectory.
Keep in mind that if you reload, you can always reduce the 300`s power down to 30-06 levels.
This is just a personal preference that I use, but I like a good solid 1500 lbs of downrange energy at impact for elk.
You can use an "external" ballistics calculator like the one on the Hornady site in order to compare these two cartridges from a downrange ballistic standpoint. Type in all the info requested and compare the two...... Very informative and fun to do!
28 Nosler,,,,300WSM,,,,338-378 Wby,,,,375 Ruger
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For the guys that are advocating the 300 H&H- Would you get that in a cap lock or flintlock? Royce Fred, that was mean...... Ingwe .....but funny....Royce always makes me chuckle!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Get the 300. You won't have to suffer the shame of being seen with an -06.
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I favor the 06 for one among an arsenal of "several" rifles which might be well covered quite well by the 300. I just rarely need a rifle that heavy. If I need the power of more recoil, I step up in bore size as well. This guy didn't stop a 190 cup and core run diagonally through at 399 yards. But if that had been 401 yards......
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The critters won't know the difference, only your shoulder will. If you can handle the recoil...300 win, if not nothing wrong with an '06
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I own a 300 Win, and if I had it to do all over again, I'd go -06 (or better yet 7mm Rem Mag or 270 Win). The 300 really shines with 180 or 200gr projectiles. For reasonable hunting distances, the 300 really has little to offer over the 30-06.
That being said, I've made a commitment to myself to learn to shoot the rifle well. I always carry the 300 to every range session with 20 or more rounds, no matter what other rifles I'm shooting. I'm learning how to handle the recoil and my confidence is going up.
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txduckman07- Great post. Learning to shoot your rifle is far more important than caliber...or a bunch of other things. While I too chose the 300 Win Mag, I believe that a man that had learned to use a 308 or 06, with that very same 180 gr bullet, could hunt every bit as effectively, at any range. A couple hundred feet of velocity is pretty much irrelevant in field performance. Ability to shoot is always relevant.
Imagine your grave on a windy winter night. You've been dead for 70 years. It's been 50 since a visitor last paused at your tombstone..... Now explain why you're in a pissy mood today.
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neither get the 300 roy there is something about them rounded shoulders
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.30-06 Springfield has served me well for over 20 years. Oh, and by the way, over the years I've had .300 Win Mag. .300 WSM, .30-06, and .308 Win. The first 2 have been gone a long time.
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