Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Sako A7 Vs. Browning X-Bolt Vs. Kimber 84 M

What in the world is this???:

I think it's aluminum. And chances are, it will shoot circles around that Kimber as well, for less money.

5 lb. rifles can be made to shoot consistently tight groups, Kimber just don't make 'em consistently do that, at least not the ones I've been around.

JM

OK here goes. The Tikka is actually a very similar action to Sako's premium rifle...the TRG. The angular Tikka action with small loading port is amazingly ridgid for it's weight. The triggers are the same on each and actually is a Tikka design now used on Sako's since Sako mfg's Tikka. The bolt lift is stiff IMO on all 3 lug Sako's. By comparison the Tikka's bolt lift is light and feels as precise as my Stolle Panda BR action that cost $1250 for the action alone. My Tikkas have shot as well or better than my Sakos. Tikkas dominate my clubs factory class 300yd matches even over high dollar Sako 85's. I also prefer the simpler 2 position safety of the Tikka that locks the bolt on safety. The 3 position of the Sakos I find difficult to manipulate in the dark or with gloves on. The A7's plastic bolt handle plug and exposed hollow plastic magazine look cheap to me. A7's are modified versions of the old Sako 75 action and are good guns but when it comes to the details I just prefer the Tikkas. Admittedly I've only owned 1 A7. It shot well around 1" or less groups. But shoot it back to back with a T3 and the T3 feels smoother, more positive, and all 3 of mine shoot better than any Sako I've owned 75's, 85, and A7.

Bottom line they're very similar but I feel the Tikka is a better design in general. The beauty of the T3 is it's dead simple, lightweight, and they shoot like target rifles. If Sako were to put better wood on the T3's and machine the few plastic parts on them I believe they could sell them for the same as the 85's.

This is purely opinion and I'm sure others would disagree.

Fishinado, different strokes for different folks. Most of your ?? can be answered by rereading my post.

The point of my post was not to convince you of anything. I was merely stating my opinion after owning all the rifles mentioned and shooting factory class competitions with them.

...well unless you just have to have a Platinum White Gold Pimp-medallion in 30-06. It comes with a "grill" and a recording of the general singing "pants on the ground".

They call that one the "Jimmyp-pimpomatic model".

I see you have not run out of incorrect facts to post, FYI, they are not made in S.C.

Any low bolt lift action like the one in the A7 will be slightly harder to lift than a conventional lift bolt action.
This is because the cocking ramp has to be steeper on a low lift action to pull the firing pin cocking piece back the requisite amount.

Lower lift = steeper ramp = harder lift.

Now that A7's are the same price as Tikkas, Fishinado may be right about Tikkas future.

This is generally true. However much can be done with polishing, firing pin spring, and the hardness of the bearing surfaces to affect bolt lift. Tikkas have amazingly light bolt lift for a 2 lug action. My Sako 85 is by far the hardest bolt lift of any I've owned. A lot has to do with the design. The Browning X-Bolt has the same 3 lug design as the Sakos but the bolt lift is much softer, smoother. Guess I just never fell in love with my Sakos.