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Was talking to gramps the other day and he was mentioning a rifle he had that is in .35 remington. He said he didn't remember it being a Remington, but wasn't sure.

Did any other company make a semi in 35rem?

Pictures of any make and model in .35rem would be great as dad saw it, but cannot remember the name or number.

Savage 2005, I don't believe anyone but Remington made a semi-auto 35 Remington. The Remington rifle is the Model 8 and when updated the model 81. The back of the reciever is humpbacked just like the Browning Auto-5. I collect Model 8's but I do not have the tech savvy to be able to post pictures.
Kerry

The Winchester Model 1905Auto was chambered in .35 Rem. I think they made a Model 1903 auto as well, but I'm not sure of the chambering.

Looks similar to the Remington Model 8, but functioned by delayed blow back, so it didn't have the barrel shroud like the Model 8 or 81.

The clip was detachable as well.

Should be worth some coin.

Rem. M-8 and M-81 were 35 Rem autos and I know of no other simi auto produced in that caliber, they are a heavy boxie looking gun with a square receiver a bit rounded on top with a bolt slide on the left side, a slim schenable forend, well made and other than being too heavy were excellent rifles IMO....Rem also produced the 35 Rem caliber in a pump version mod. 14 and 141, and Marlin produced a Lever action in a M-36 variation.

The Remington Model 8:


The Model 81:


FN made the FN 1900 which was a virtual copy of the Model 8/81.



Web site devoted to the Remington Models 8 & 81.

Thanks. I'll send these to dad tonight, and see if it jogs that brain around.

Gramps said 'Some guy" told him it was worht about $900 and this was 4 or 5 years ago.

You can pick up a good Model 81 for about $500 bucks.

If it's a Winchester Model 1905, I don't know what it would be worth.

Found this on a collectors site though.




I'm sure the crack in the stock kills the value. The model 1905 listed under it was in .32 caliber and had a value of $849.00

JM

There was a "Standard" that came in 35 Remington, It could br
set to function either manually or semi-auto. As I remember
the Winchesters were a 351 a different cartridge.
Good luck!

Those 8's and 81's look BEEFY

The Winchester 1905 was chambered in 32 WSL and 35 WSL, not 35 Rem.

The Winchester 1907 was chambered in 351 WSL, not 35 Rem.

The only semi-autos made in 35 Rem, that I know of, were the Remington 8/81, the Standard, and the FN built European version of the Remington 8.

The 32 WSL and 35 WSL are listed in the Obsolete American Rifle Cartridges section of COTW #4. The 351 WSL is listed in the Current American Rifle Cartridges section of COTW #4.

Jeff

JohnMoses,

The Winchester 1905 fired a different cartridge than the 35 Remington. It was call 351 SL, or self-loading. It was a straight-walled cartridge that looked a lot like a scaled-up 30 caliber US carbine. The 1905 rifle was a straight blowback design and is not strong enough to handle the more powerful 35 Remington round.

Thanks guys,

Learn something everyday. I saw an old bullet and thought it sure looked different than a .35 Rem.

Best,

JM

Here is another bit of useless trivia. The French tested the Winchester 1907 as an assault rifle in the trench warfare of WW1. They had 30-round magazines, but no full-auto option. Given the complex nature of the rifle and the mud/dust of the trench systems, it is a wonder that they worked well or worked long without jamming.

I have often wondered why Winchester didn't just chamber the 30 M-1 Carbine in 351 WSL instead of creating a new cartridge.

Jeff

Here I is emptying 5 shots from a Remington M8 in 35 Remington.

Model 8 Remington's were patented in 1906. The were available in 25 Rem, 30 Rem, 32 Rem and 35 Rem.

I always heard the old timers speak very highly of the Remington model 8, but never heard any good words for the Semi auto Winchesters that were available in 351 and 401 win. They were labeled by the men that used them as unreliable and underpowered.

I have a Remington model 8 that my grandfather's uncle bought in 1908. It's kind of like the AK-47. It don't look like much, it just works all the time, every time, no matter what you do to abuse it.

A M1907 Winchester in .351 Winchester, from the first year of production:



After about 70 years on a South Texas ranch, I might add. The round is said to run 180gr bullets at ~1800fps. Less Wheaties than a .30-30, but more than a .30 carbine.

Funny my dies for it just arrived today...

I have also seen a 8 chambered in 23-35. Have seen 81s in 300 Savage. Always thought that 81 in 300 Savage would make a dandy hunting rifel.

Talk about old-school quality, those old 8s and 81s have it in spades! I hate to think what it would cost to build them today. But you can buy serviceable ones for $300 here and there.

By the way, I have a Stith scope mount in perfect condition for the Remington models 8/81. If somebody needs it send me a PM. Maybe you got somethin' I need and we could trade.

My FIL's Model 81 is in .300 Savage.

Really like that gun.

JM

The model 8 & 81 are probably the best quality and most reliable semi-auto sporting rifles ever made. As a former gunsmith, when someone brought in a semi-auto sporting rifle for repair, I just pointed to the door because I always lost money working on those POS semi-autos. Model 8 & 81 rifles almost never came in because they didn�t work, but for various other repairs. I came to admire the design and picked up a nearly pristine 81 in .300 Savage. It was a great rifle but it did kick a bit. Never got to hunt with it, but I sure appreciated the slick design. What a lot of people don�t know; the Model 8 & 81 are take down rifles.

Check out the gundigest, they always have a number of them for sale, they are a sleeper and I can find a 8, 81, or the pump 14 or 141 most anytime for around $395 to $500 depending on condition...The 300 Savage caliber seem to be bringing a bit more as of late. They are such well made rifles, the workmanship is outstanding in quality.