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Why not just get a .25-06 AI? 'Cause it still requires a long action and it STILL ain't a 25 ROY But you get such a cooool cartridge w/o a belt, using 20 less grains of powder, with brass that doesn't cost $1.80 a piece. Weighing those differences against the difference in velocities, I'd still go with the .25-06 AI. (When are we going sage rat shooting????)
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I've had three .257 Roberts A.I.'s two Remingtons and one Ruger 77. All short actions. Currently using a Remington 700 custom rebuild. The A.I. will do everything the .25-06 will do with more efficiency. However, if you want a light weight varmint rifle, the .257 Roberts A.I. is a bit much. I would recommend something in the 6mm or .224 caliber. With the new bullets they cam do so much more than a few years ago.
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Mine is on a Mexican Mauser action with a Krieger barrel and a Rimrock stock. It makes a handy mountain rifle. My loads with 115 grain Partitions are roughly equivalent to what I have seen in several .25-06s for which I have reloaded. You would have to go to a .257 Wby to get a significant increase in velocity, or you might be able to accomplish the same thing in a short-action with a .25 WSM.
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But doesn't everybody know that the 25 WSSM is a POS?
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But doesn't everybody know that the 25 WSSM is a POS?
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The 25 WSSM is about the same capacity as the 257 AI and runs at higher pressures... whats NOT to love??
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well, she's short, fat, & dumpy. But she performs pretty well.
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Since Muleshoe said that he is looking to build a light weight varmint rifle, so I'm assuming that he is planning to shoot bullets of 100 grains or less. If I am correct, why would there be any advantage to build on a LA vs. a SA? I can't see how any bullet weighing 100 grains or less could be loaded too long to work through a SA. ... COL for my 100g TTSX loads is as long as my 110g AccuBond and longer than my 115g TTSX, 120g Grand Slam and 120g A-Frame loads. That's reason enough for me. The real benefit of the .257 Roberts is, IMHO, found with a case capacity well matched to a shorter 20" or 22" barrel. For the .25-06 I would prefer a 24" or 26". (Not sure you can even get shorter than 24" in a factory .25-06, but I haven't surveyed the market, either.) In the Ruger lineup, the 22" .257 Roberts comes in at 7.0 pounds while the 24" .25-06 is listed at 8.25 pounds. Another good reason to select the Roberts. Probably another reason my Ruger Roberts is my favorite rifle... [Edited again to add - Savage lists a .25-06 with a 22" barrel. I would still prefer 24" for that cartrdige.)
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I built my .257 AI from a .25-06. The long action gives ample magazine room for 117 and 120 gr bullets. It's been my favorite sheep, deer, and antelope rifle for over 30 years. I also used it to drop one of my largest bull elk in his tracks while I was hunting sheep in the wilderness north of Yellowstone Park.
The .25-06 has a slight velocity edge, but I've never felt my .257 AI was lacking.
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I fell into this problem..
ended up with a 25.06 heavy varmint barrel to put on a Savage.. I was looking at rechambering down to a 257 Roberts...
however what my friend the gun smith pointed out, was that I could save the expense by just loading the 25/06 case to 257 Roberts AI standards...
pressure would be lower and also barrel life would be extended..
so as much as I love the Roberts and how little I like the 25/06..I am living with a 25/06 and life is just fine..
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