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Ive got two 16's that i love but couldnt find ammo for so i started reloading for them. Now one is my predator shotgun and turkey gun. How bout yall?


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Like you I couldn't find the ammo for my old SxS I use for rabbits.
So set-up my Mec and use the old fiber wads.

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Ive actually found that when loaded with the right ammo theres not a whole lot you cant do with it, ive got an old stevens single shot for birds and a mossberg bolt action for turkeys and yotes, what reloading guides do you use?


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I use the lyman guide and also the 16 gauge manual put out by Ballistic Products.

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Ive ordered the one from bpi but it hasnt arrived, right now im using info on hodgdons online deal


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Alliant book (free) has data. I use Unique, 1 oz and BP plastic wads. Works fine in my Sauer drilling.

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reload...x&type=2&powderid=3&gauge=16

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Originally Posted by oldman1942
Alliant book (free) has data. I use Unique, 1 oz and BP plastic wads. Works fine in my Sauer drilling.

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reload...x&type=2&powderid=3&gauge=16


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"your just a master of all things aren't you."

Your spell checker is still broken, I think you were grasping for "you are"

and yes, 50+ years of handloading has put me way ahead of you and the rest of the brat pack.

Ever seen a Velo Dog? or reloaded for a Match Target Woodsman converted to it? If you wonder why, you might try asking Askins (except he's now dead).

All we seem to hear from you are off topic insulting posts. Whatsamatta tired of shooting elk in feed grounds?

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Ah the brat pack stalkers gather to hijack yet another thread.
Go talk to the hat.

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Originally Posted by oldman1942
Ah the brat pack stalkers gather to hijack yet another thread.
Go talk to the hat.


maybe if you just ignored us, we'd go away.

BTW, what's the terms on the Sauer Drilling?


To the OP, I use unique and either 4 or 6 shot. Sometimes 7/8, sometimes 1oz.

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Sorry RWE you and the other bully boys will be cut no slack from me. I don't suffer fools well. Perhaps if YOU stop hijacking threads to attack me, you would not have a problem.

You brats started it and you can end it by acting like adults.

You want to buy the Sauer, trot you butt over to Gunbroker and bid on it.

"To the OP, I use unique and either 4 or 6 shot. Sometimes 7/8, sometimes 1oz." must be an echo in here.....(GRIN)

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This thread is worth reviving. I reload for a Russian Tula sxs 16 gauge hammer gun. My favorite 16 load is the standard 1 oz. of #6s at 1165 fps, which I duplicate with 2-3/4" Cheddite plastic hulls, Gualandi 1621 wads, PB powder and a roll crimp. I also have a cheap, light target load using the same components with 7/8 oz. and a light load of Red Dot.

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Win AA hulls, 1-1/4 oz shot(was lead, now bismuth), SP16 wads, and used to use W571, now use Blue Dot or Unique. Great waterfowl hunting load I use in my old SxS SUHL 16.

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Originally Posted by Cleftwynd
Win AA hulls, 1-1/4 oz shot(was lead, now bismuth), SP16 wads, and used to use W571, now use Blue Dot or Unique. Great waterfowl hunting load I use in my old SxS SUHL 16.


Cleftwynd, just FYI, if you can locate any HS-7, that is the Hodgdon version of WW571.

However the signs I've seen seem to indicate HS-7 is on its way out, (to be replaced with LongShot it would seem. thankfully HS-6 seems it will be around longer, my favorite ball powder in its niche/class/burn-rate)

I'm not a 16ga shooter, but too bad that round continues to be ignored and langwish with no support from gunmakers/ammomakers! I do however have Pacific DL105 dies in 16gauge [in case] a friend or family member ever need them!

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HS-7 was discontinued a while back it seems, hence my switch AGAIN, getting tired of changing powders for my fave 16 load lol.

I'll keep loading the 1-1/4 oz load for my 16 until I am either 6 feet under, or components are so hard to get I can't even make my own shot!

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My standard load (for field and target) is 1 oz of shot behind 22.0 grains of Herco. For waterfowl, I use bismuth and either Longshot or SR4756. For heavier applications, I use 1 1/8 oz of shot and blue dot.
I have a variety of hulls: Cheddite, Remington, some old WWAA hulls, Federal (a favorite) and Fiocchi.
I also have a buffered turkey load using 1 1/4 oz of Nickle plated shot and (IIRC) SR4756....still haven't taken a turkey with it yet, but I know it will do the job to 45 yards or so.

Here are a pair of mallards I took with my Remington model 11:
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Just ordered components. Got a reloading kit today...hoping to cook up a load my model 90 likes for turkey.

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My first shotgun was a model 12 16 ga. In fact I still have a different one. In the early 60's, small frame light shotguns were lots easier to carry than any of the 12 ga. guns. Today I have two o/u, two pumps, and a semi auto. I've loaded since the mid 60's and the guns have never let me down. In fact they have been a preference gauge because the way they handle and the point ability.

Many a pheasant, wild chukar and some quail have supplied camp meat for some big hunting crews.

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I have 2 870's and reload for mine.

Mainly for dove shooting but i have been tinkering with number 1 buckshot loads for it.

It does do as well as my 12 gauge 870.

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Two Fox Sterlingworths and a Citori 16 gauge. One ounce of nickel plated #5's or #6's are death on pheasants. Haven't loaded any non toxic shot for waterfowl, but plan to do so soon. The BP 16 gauge manual and the Hodgdon website have about any load you might want. Sure wish they still made 16 gauge AA hulls.

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Cheddite hulls are the way to go and one can get them from Graf's & Sons or Ballistic Products just about anytime they are needed.

The one wad for any size load up to 1 oz. is the Downrange DR16. It's designed specifically for the straight walled hulls and has a long crush section to allow the wad to apply the right amount of pressure for good fold crimps.

1 oz. loads in the 16 are nice, but I've been experimenting with 3/4 & 7/8 oz. loads lately and your really not giving up anything in these loads to the 1 oz load in the performance end of things. And you are getting more loads per bag of shot.

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Originally Posted by Bay_Dog
Cheddite hulls are the way to go and one can get them from Graf's & Sons or Ballistic Products just about anytime they are needed.

The one wad for any size load up to 1 oz. is the Downrange DR16. It's designed specifically for the straight walled hulls and has a long crush section to allow the wad to apply the right amount of pressure for good fold crimps.

1 oz. loads in the 16 are nice, but I've been experimenting with 3/4 & 7/8 oz. loads lately and your really not giving up anything in these loads to the 1 oz load in the performance end of things. And you are getting more loads per bag of shot.


Cheddite hulls are definately "OK" for what's out there now. If you have access somehow to old Win AA's those are great. Old Active all plastic shells are pretty good if by chance you come across them.

Get on the Bakllistic Products website(www.ballisticproducts.com), and get their 16 gauge load book. Best place for 16 information IMHO. I found their peasant load book lacking in 16 ga loads, and would reccomend "High performance loads for Clays" instead. BPI is big on using overshot wads, and they've now made a believier out of me.

There is a dearth of new information for the 16. You're going to have to do a lot of trial and error.

Good Luck!, Have Fun.

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I do like the Cheddite hulls and the BP wads for 1 oz or even 7/8 oz target loads. I have found a coupla cases of Fiocchi target 8 shot and saved the hulls these work well for reloading also. The other hulls I use are Remmington and Winchester promotinal loads such as light game stuff. Hogdon Long shot and 1 1/16 oz loads have been doing the trick on Dakota upland out of my CSMC RBL 16 for quite some time now.

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