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David, either will do i think. If you can get your hands on enough brass to satisfy yourself do the 64. I load for my buddies two 62's. One on an FN with a 23" Kreiger barrel and the other on another FN only with a 26" Lothar Walther. And his CZ550 9.3x62 rechambered to 9.3x64 And then my Cz550FS 9.3x62 that i had Dennis Erhardt (Frontier Gunshop) rechamber. In fact, he's done all the metalwork on all of these rifles. They are both fantastic rounds but ya gotta give the Brenneke the nod i feel. It's like the 458 WM works but the 458 Lott works better.
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I am going to be building a 9.3, I just can't decide 62 or 64.
I already have a 270. 308 Scout and 45/70 carbine lever.
Someday I hope to hunt the big 5 in Africa but I am not holding my breath.
Ammo cost does not matter, I can order some great ammo from custom loaders and if I have a couple hundred rounds in various set ups I should be set for life.
Big ? of course I know you do not need the .64 for hunt deer heck my .308 or .270 are great for that BUT the ? is would I be an idiot to hunt deep with a .62 or .64?
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I'm a shooter but not a hunter, however I have done a bit of traveling, so take it from that perspective. If I was planning a gun that I might take to Africa I would get a 9.3x62. Why? Because when you are traveling you never know whether your luggage will arrive with you, except for carry on, which, of course, you cannot do with either guns or ammunition. If you arrive with your rifle but without your ammo, 9.3x62 ammunition is widely available around the world, and particular in Africa, whereas availability of the 64 is, I would guess, a lot more spotty. With the 62 you can still shoot your own rifle, with a 64 you would likely have to shoot a borrowed one.
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Jamison International is currently making 9.3x64 Brenneke brass. Jamison brassBoth are great cartridges, but x64 is more powerful. I already owned a 338-06 so I wanted to step up in power to a 375 class cartridge. Which is more appropriate for Africa IMO. I have two x64 Brennekes. An all weather VZ 24 with B&C stock painted and metal treated by CAS. Second is a blued/wood Argentine action that is not finished yet. I had some difficulties with stockmaker on this project and am just finally gettting around to wanting it finished.
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I built my 9.3x62 in 2000 via a Cliff LaBounty rebore of an FN Supreme 30-06. I loaded the 250 gr Barnes X to 2650 fps and took it to Africa in 2002 where it performed admirably on 10 animals from porcupine to eland. I would not bother with the x64.
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The 64 just sounds unique and exotic which I like sometimes....
That little extra potential oooomph could really pay off at times if I ever get to Africa.
Really with a 270 (60's Remington 700), .308 Winchester Model 70 (pre 64) Scout, 45/70 carbine and the 9.3X64 Id have everything I could possibly need covered unless I had to go REALLY BIG or really far
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I'm thinking I'll make the x62, use 30-06 brass and save the properly headstamped stuff for international travel.
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Good plan there. Sounds like a TERRIFIC rifle when all done.
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The 64 just sounds unique and exotic which I like sometimes....
That little extra potential oooomph could really pay off at times if I ever get to Africa.... I've read very highly about the 9.3x64 Brenneke. It's at least and even considered better than the 375 H&H.
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I'm thinking I'll make the x62, use 30-06 brass and save the properly headstamped stuff for international travel. I am seriously considering going with the 9.3x62 when my 7mm model 21 gives up the ghost. It is one of the very few cartridges that interests me.
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9.3x62.
Thread is a little old.
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Hi I have 9,3x64 Sauer-Weatherby and it perfect gun for everything big. Have use it twice in Africa and only one animal move from shooting place more that 10m, but this case was my and ammo problems. Shooting distances where between 50 and 300 yrd. But not for the Big Five yet. The recoil is sharper than 375 H&H and bullet greating same power as 375H&H. Same time bullet flight is more flat. If rifle is aimed on MRD (180yrd) then you can make easily shot from 50 - 330 yrd. And the aiming point is between +1 on 50yrd and -15 on 330yrd. Standard ammo what I use is 293gr RWS Uni Classic or Bernneke TUG (there is also new Brenneke TOG 247gr available what flight is more flat than TUG) But gun have also some minus sides when you hunt in Africa: First many countries do not allowed hunt on big five below 375H&H. Most of PH in Africa know and accept 9,3x64 caliber as perfect for everything but law is law... Second if you lose your ammo then you are alone...there is no change to get new one from local shop. Even in Europe you might be in trouble. I'm ordering my ammo from Germany and keeping min.100 or more always at home do not have surprises. Finally its beautiful gun to use but rare caliber for every day hunting. Also expensive to use as ammo cost 4$ piece and difficult to get. But I'm clad to have it and will not change it to 375 or 9,3x62.
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Interesting...is the 9.3x64 gainnig in popularity?
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Dude..If you are really going....take what rifle you shoot best,spend your money on optics and good shoes...have fun
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Interesting...is the 9.3x64 gainnig in popularity? I doubt it. The thread was started in 2004
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Reloading for the 9.3 X 62 22" With 250 gr bullets I see 2650 FPS and 2520 FPS with 286 gr bullets. Good case life. Accurate and 5 rounds in magazine in a under 8 # rifle.
What are real numbers in a 9.3 X 64 22" ?
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Reloading for the 9.3 X 62 22" With 250 gr bullets I see 2650 FPS and 2520 FPS with 286 gr bullets. Good case life. Accurate and 5 rounds in magazine in a under 8 # rifle.
What are real numbers in a 9.3 X 64 22" ? From what I've read, with 250gr bullets about 2800 FPS and with 286 gr. bullets about 2650 FPS. Is that worth the difference? I was also thinking of the 375 Ruger- any experience with that one?
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I have both My Ruger 375 is more rifle but heavier and not as balanced. IMHO Plus the 9.3 X 62 has 2 more in the magazine the Ruger is SS which makes it easier to care for in our wet weather. A real looney needs all 3 to make a fair comparison!
My most accurate loads in my 20" 375 Ruger are 300 gr bullet around 2586 FPS 270 gr bullet @ 2650 FPS went higher but accuracy fell off. Limited testing load depelopment was fast and easy.
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KK, You forgot to mention your 35 Whelen and 35 Whelen AI and how about your latest .338 Ruger isn't it. --- Mel
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Wow Mel you forgot one , 1 35 Whelen Std, your old 7600, plus 1 35 Whelen Imp., 338 RCM, 9.3 X 62 & a 375 Ruger.
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