Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Savage Collectors A kind of crazy thought?

After thinking about the rifle I have that lettered as a full octagon 32-40 and has been re barreled to a half octagon that came from an engraved rifle I decided to take the fore end off for a better look. The bbl is serial numbered to its original rifle 45xxx which is pretty interesting however much more interesting is the fact that in the time period this barrel was produced the catalogs I have only show the monarch grade rifle with engraving on the bbl "with its graceful ivy pattern" I think this bbl originally came from a monarch grade rifle!
A kind of crazy thought?

No one here has a thought? Am I wrong?
Thanks Chris

Chris Maybe not so Crazy! I Have a 1895 that has similar engraving about the same distance as yours but mine is a rnd barrel. Have not yet had it lettered.

Chris,I guess you could send for a letter using the barrel S/N and find out for sure,could be interesting to find out. Don

Yeah, maybe Tue's graver slipped in a momentary lapse in concentration and botched up the receiver so they salvaged the barrel.... I can see the explicatives flying now from his Utica bench. Now it's debated a hundred some odd years later.......

I can't imagine Tue's graver ever slipping, but I guess we all make mistakes! An old wise man told me one time that the mark of a good craftsman is not in how good his work is but in how well he can recover from a mistake!

a lot of custom guns in that serial number range.... where is Jed or someone that has seen a Monarch grad and might be able to comment to if the engraving is actually monarch??? Would be pretty cool!!!

I kinda doubt it too, but sounds like a good story you would hear on GB, AA or GA. We'll have to wait on that letter I guess.

Jim
Curious! How would the Story Go?

looks like A-2 Special engraving. it's Savage. Leftover,likely.

No crazy story here the marks on the bbl as well as the dents in the receiver tell about the re bbl . Many here have engraved 99's besides the 99k's and the verry few 95's are there any with graving on the bbl?? I am by far no expert but pretty sure any graver with salt would have a bbl'ed action to worrk with as seen with the few stimpled rifles out there.

Could you turn the gun from right to left and take a few more
pictures or look on page #8 catalogue #24 the large 7.50X9.25
this is the only picture large enough to see the barrel clear.

Just to put them in line...

Say, FUG.. is there any clear pictures of a monarch barrel on Allen Mabe's flyer? I'm looking at the 2nd page with the Monarch with the leaf pattern, but my copy isn't clear enough to see anything on the barrel.


Edit: Actually, Mabe had a half octagon Monarch in 303 Savage with SN 45.264. ctw, don't suppose this is a match? Trip if it is..

I am to old to stand on my head

crud..

A couple more picts

Fug is this what you mean? Any idea who has the 45264 rifle now? I would like to see the barrel get to where it belongs.

The one in the catalogue looks to have the leaf on 5 sides of the
barrel,tne one in Allen Mabe's flyer look the same.The question
is if the one shown in the flyer is gun #45,264 or just a picture
of a Monarch.

This bbl has the leaf on 5 sides as well.