Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles H380 or 335 in an '06?

Anyone ever tried h380 or 335 in an '06 or 300wm? Have a chance to purchase some real cheap but i never have used either one.

H380 48.0gr.---53.0gr. with 150 gr. bullet.
H380 45.0gr.---51.5gr. with 165 gr. bullet.
Never used H335 in 30/06.
Hope this helps.

I have come across some H380 that is much, much slower than it should be given its position on the charts. I have also found widely varying load data for it from different sources.

They are both good powders and I like them both enough to buy in the eight pound portions when I do. I don't think 335 is nearly as fussy as 380 can sometimes be however. 335 seems to work just as well when throttled back a bit as it does when it is run cranked up to where it burns best. 380, OTOH, can get kind of touchy in some applications when the case gets rather full or the pressures are high.

If I also had a 223, I'd easily choose 335; if a 22-250, then 380.

H380 and h335 are pretty fast burning powders for a case the size of 30.06. They are generally used in lighter bullets in 22 250 and smaller cases. Just have to make sure of load data .








H3

My experience exactly. I've been reloading since 1968, and H380 has shown me the widest lot-to-lot variation of any powder I've tried. I used to shoot a lot of it in the .22-250, and even a bit in the .30-06/150 gr, but every time I bought a new batch, I had to start all over with load development.

Now, I haven't bought any H380 in prob 15 years now.....it may be more consistent now. As for H335, I use tons of it in .223, but none in .30-06.

My feelings exactly as to the qualities of H335 in regards to the .223.

Twelve 8 pounders of H335 (of the same lot#) will attest to that being my way of thinking......

I have a 223 and a 243 but load for the 243 only right now. I will use them for those calibers then. I have looked at the manuals and they all show loads for the '06 for both powders but im sure neither are the best choices for it. I was mainly going to load it with some 152gr M2 ball for my garand and have them for just burning up lead. I was just hoping the accuracy wouldnt suck too bad. Thanks for all of the input guys

I used H335 in the '06 to simulate 300 Savage loads for my son when he was starting out with it. It's been a couple of years but I think the 150 gr Rem Corelokts were grouping in the 1.25 inch range. Can't remember the charge but I used the book numbers for the 300 Savage and estimated the powder charge to get that velocity in the '06.

Dale

You'll really like 335 in the 223 with 55s or so; doubt it'll be of great use in the 243. But it is an acceptable powder in the 30-06, especially with lighter bullets. I've used it up through 150 or maybe even 165 grains, but it is listed with even heavier weights. It just seems a bit quick for them. It is too fast for most loads in a case as large as the 243 as compared to bore size. I've had good results with lighter 130-ish weight in my 7mm-08. It's superb in the 30-30 and 308.

I have found some nicely accurate loads in my 7mm-08 with 380 but it isn't fast. I've gotten some interesting results with 380 in the 308 and 30-06 which lead me to believe that it can be a rather aggressively violent/abrasive powder under certain conditions. Splitting case necks has been one of the rather unpleasant results I've seen with it. Works great in the 22-250 through.

One of my pet .30-06 loads with a 165 gr. Nosler BT or PT is with H380. IIRC, the data is from Lyman #48 and I'm running 56 gr. of H380 under the 165s with excellent accuracy and velocity, no flattened primers or other pressure issues, but it is considerably higher than what RedMonkey put up above.

I double checked, my data actually comes from Hodgdon's site and is for use with a 165 gr. SIE BTHP bullet, max load of 56.5 gr. H380 is listed at a velocity of 2892. I'm getting 2850 with 56 gr. and the 165 gr. Nosler bullets I listed in previous post.