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one of the best all around cartridges ever designed.
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Dober why do you like the 6 x 36 instead of the FXIII, both can be had with dots? I have got a heavy 3 x 9 on mine I need to dump. The FXIII 6x42 is as heavy as a VXII 3-9x40, and nearly as big... too big for the svelt Montana 308 for my taste. In my opinion, the point of a fixed 6x is a smaller, lighter scope than a 3-9... if I were willing to have a scope as large as a 6x42 on a Little Sky, I'd sooner it be a 3-9x40. In no particular order, my three top scopes for the Little Sky: VXII 2-7x33 LR FXII 6x36 LR VXIII 2.5-8x36 B&C
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The 308 Win is possibly my favorite cartridge. Kicks noticeably less than a 30-06, but does nearly the same, but in a smaller, lighter, handier package. I've used mine to take elk, whitetail deer and my first mule deer fell to the 308.
If I were told I could only hunt with a 308 the rest of my life I'd be entirely satisfied I'd never lack in power for anything I hunt here in Montana.
I'd likely load up a 168 Ballistic Tip and fill up one of Mark's Arks...
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To cut to the chase I could...grab one in a Lil Sky, add Talley's, a 6x36 Leo with dotz, Uncle Mikes Mtn sling and sally forth and hunt most all the world with it.
How 'bout a fixed 4 and a Turner 1903?? I'm thinking that once I get my 2-7x33 LR back from Leupold, it'll go on the 308 for a while. I'm seriously getting rid of all my bolt guns except the Montana 308 and the new 260 thats on the way. The fixed 4 might get put on my flat-top AR carbine for a calling rifle. To the OP, a light handy 308 is about the closest thing to a perfect all 'rounder. My arsenal is about to be 223, 260rem, 308, 375H&H. A 308 pretty much sends 165 bullets with .480-.520 BCs out of a 22" tube at 2750. Which, BTW, is a magic equation for dead schitt.
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I am also a .308 fan. My family has always been Remington 742/7400 people in mostly .30-06, but I was the rebel when I got one in .308 back in the 70's. In Minnesota forests the remington semi auto is popular. I later ended up buying a 7400 in 3006 from a coworker who needed money now (still have that and use it on occassion).. But by and large I have always favored the .308 as my main big game cartridge. Since moving to Texas years ago I usually use a .308 bolt mainly with 165 grain cartridges. The current one is a Sako. Does what I need it to do and with less recoil than a 3006/7mm mag/300 mag.
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Dober why do you like the 6 x 36 instead of the FXIII, both can be had with dots? I have got a heavy 3 x 9 on mine I need to dump. The FXIII 6x42 is as heavy as a VXII 3-9x40, and nearly as big... too big for the svelt Montana 308 for my taste. In my opinion, the point of a fixed 6x is a smaller, lighter scope than a 3-9... if I were willing to have a scope as large as a 6x42 on a Little Sky, I'd sooner it be a 3-9x40. In no particular order, my three top scopes for the Little Sky: VXII 2-7x33 LR FXII 6x36 LR VXIII 2.5-8x36 B&C Macs post pretty much says it all to me. I'd likely work up a load with Varget and 165 Sierra HPBT or the 168 NBT and go forth and take to filling arks.. Dober
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Got alot of 308 fans in this world. Thanks for all the replies.
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Would put the hurt on Charlies ass with an M60 or M14.
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A 308 with a 165 is slicker than greased eel [bleep].
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Dig my .308. Got another one that shoots fat bullets to go with it (aka 338Fed)
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Just took my new RSI 308 for its first walk in the woods today.
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Every big game animal I've taken since I got started hunting big game in 1982 would have fallen easily to a .308 Win.
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Ahhh, I did miss one. That Minigun would definitely establish superior firepower, plus, I bet it was a Hell of a hoot to shoot
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I am impressed with how many people are fans of the 308 here. In South Dakota it doesn't seem to get a lot of love but a lot of the guys I have hunted with have became interested after seeing it perform. One of the best all around cartridges ever IMHO.
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Yes GeoW-- Sound of a fog horn going off. When she was good she was good ,but because of our own mounting system and setup she did jam up more so than I would like. The teapot steam hissing sound that I always hear is a by product of the Minigun. I have a recording on a CD of me firing that minigun in May of 1971. A recording was made with a small hand held tape recorder and later on a CD. -- The M2 .50 was the bread 'n' butter. Web P.S. I do most of my buck hunting with my .308--own two
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Always been a fan of the .308's offsprings, but never got the daddy till a year or so back. Now we have (in order of appearance at my house): .243, .358, and the .30 version; son swapped my favorite .308 Improved (the Remington 6.5 version) last fall but I wanna get a replacement.
Our LTR .308 has felled 3 whitetail so far (with Federal 165 TBs which it dotes on; yes, it's an elk load), and a borrowed Weatherby UL in that caliber took another WT a few years back.
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This is where it started for me....killing this small mule deer buck with my Remington Model 600 in .308. I shoveled a lot of snow and mowed a lot of grass to earn enough money to buy it...brand new for $75.00!! Between then and now a lot of rifles have passed through my hands...It seems its kind of came full cicle. Currently I own 7 different .308's in a variety of shapes and sizes, from heavy tactical setups to 7 pound lightweight mountain rifles. I've never felt under gunned packing a .308. One of my favorite loads is the 155 Lapua Scenar using Hodgdons Varget. I'm able to get 2950fps in my .308's with 24" to 26" barrels. The BC of that bullet is .508. Do the comparisons on that bullet and velocity and you might be surprised what it will out perform(sorry .270 fans).BTW, Scenars in my experience perform on par with Berger VLD's as a hunting bullet... Durable? Very!! My most accurate rifle is a Heavy tactical Surgeon built .308. at this time it has 4000+ rounds through it and still shoots in the .3's and .4's. My bore scope indicates there is a lot of life left in it. I have friends who have put 10,000+ rounds through their .308's and they still shoot MOA or better....thats a lot of trigger time and that adds up to proficientcy. Anyway thats my opinion...Gotta go...taking the boys out in the prairie shoot the high powers...think I'll throw in a couple .308's.....grin!
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Neat pic Pat. Did you use the 155 Scenar for your latest volunteer across the pond?
Also, how do you see the debate tween the 308 and 7/08?
Gracais
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Pat,
Thanks for the photo etc. My first real hunting rifle was a Savage 99 .308--that I wish I still had!
A couple of years ago here on the Campfire I stated that the .308 and .270 were basically the same thing. Of course I was talking ballistic performance rather than case dimensions, but I was called all kinds of an idiot by several .270 adherents. So I'm glad that there's at least one other idiot posting here....
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