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First off, I'm not up on guns and there values. I'm just a hunter who has a few guns. in saying that, I bought a couple old guns from a neighbor about 5 years ago. The one I have a question about is the Savage 22 hornet. It has a serial number on it, I cannot find a model number on it. the gun is a bolt acting. I did some searching online. I think it might be a 23D model but I'm not sure. Can you please help me figure this out?

Most likely is a 23D, it's the only bolt action in 22 Hornet they made except for a variation of the model 340.

If it has a schnoble tip on it it's a 23D but some later 23D's didn't have the schnoble tip.

I can never remember a 23d with a schnarble tip and I looked a long time.

Joe, Didn't they chamber some model 19's in 22 Hornet??? seems i heard about some once. Don

I had several years ago. The earlier mfd. one had a schnabel like an early 23A; the later one had a plain, fuller forend like my late model 23B.

Yep, 19H.

If it's a 19H thats a damn nice find, never seen one myself.

If you were in the U.S., I have a 19H that I'd love to sell. All it does is take up space and gather dust. Of course, you might want to overlook the red plastic diamonds that were inletted into the sides of the stock.

Jeff

A guy could cut some fancy walnut diamonds and replace the plastic inlays? Just a thought.

I guess that a guy who cared could, but I don't care enough to spend the time to do anything but move it from corner to corner.

Jeff

is there any you can tell by the serial number on the barrel?

There should be a roll stamp on the barrel indicating what model it is.

If you post a few pictures, with details of any roll stamps on the rifle, it should be an easy ID.

Jeff

thats what has me puzzled. there are only 2 markings on the barrel. one is the serial number which is located between the bolt and the chamber opening. the other is just saying "Savage Arm Corporation. Utica NY, made in the USA". That is located about mid way up the barrel. There is nothing calling out a model number. The reason I'm asking someone wants trade me this gun for a snowmobile trailer. I don't want get ripped off or do i want to rip someone else off.

BTW I really appreciate all the responses

That's fairly fishy; even the cheapest Savage .22 rimfires always have a model number stamped on them somewhere (I know, I know: "Never say never, etc."). But still. And HOW exactly do you KNOW it's a .22 Hornet if there's no caliber stamp?

Which model had the serial number stamped in the chamber where he's describing it?

I know there was one but can't remember which.

I have seen a number of schnable forend on model 23 Savage rifles. It pretty well has to be a 23 or a 340 and the 340 is a bulky hunk of junk IMO and not worth owning..The 23s are nice rifles but prone to headspace problems..The best way to cure a 23s headspace problem is to make it a 22 Hornet Ackley IMP..that is the fix...I alway did this on the 219s also..It's a good practical conversion unless you have a collectable gun.

Yeah, but that would only tend to exacerbate the problem as to why it developed headspace in the first place. AI chamberings tend to get loaded even hotter by guys trying to make it something it isn't. Giving it a sharper shoulder, and then sizing cases to headspace on that shoulder is a fix, sure, but isn't really addressing the issue. Also at that point more of the case head is left unsupported further contributing to poor case life and risk of case head separation. I got rid of a M1920 .250-3000 once for that very reason. Headspace was bad, I sized cases to take up the slack, case stretching continued to worsen. I finally gave up on it. As an aside, I had a 1903 M2 Springfield converted to .22 Hornet (which guns by the way were the original test beds for the Hornet's development 80 years ago) that was just fine and dandy. Case life was good and accuracy superb. Did I leave it alone? No, I had to have it opened up to a K-Hornet. After that case life was nil and for some reason it kept breaking firing pins- like after about every 10 shots. When I loaded it down to original Hornet velocities everything was good again. It went the way of the wind eventually too. I figured I accomplished nothing more than ruining a perfectly good arsenal .22 barrel.

Granted 23's in centerfire calibers have a margin of safety, but it's not huge. Loading to the upper end of specs and shooting them a heck-of-a-lot will cause some setback eventually.

The 340 may be about the homeliest orphan in the Savage stable, but they worked well, feel good in the hands, were plenty strong for their intended calibers, and as a rule give better than average accuracy.

Not to pick nits, but I have always thought that the 340 was a little "iffy" in 225. OTOH, since I've never heard of a 340V failing, it might just be my concern about having a single locking lug action mated to a barrel chambered for a hot cartridge.

Jeff

Jeff...if you still have the 19h I would be interested in seeing a picture of it.
creekman

I've looked all over the gun, nothing telling what model. The only way I know it is a hornet is the old man(who is now deceased) that sold it to me told me it was. Also the clip the came with it says 22 hornet on it.