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i have never nor will i ever own a 270. uselss cartridge in my opinion.
While the .30-06 is arguably more useful over a wider variety of game, I�ve always felt the .270 Win was perhaps the best cartridge for a dedicated deer rifle. It is certainly more than enough for most hunting purposes. Judging by the numbers of elk and moose that fall to a .270 and smaller cartridges every year, it is very hard to appear anything but a fool when arguing that it isn�t adequate for elk. For some reason, some people compare a .30-06 with heavy bullets to a .270 with light bullets � apples to oranges. Load a 150g A-Frame into a .270 Win and you are good for anything except perhaps certain situations involving big bears. In those situations a .30-06 wouldn�t be my first choice, either. 30 cal's have a larger bullet selection in weight and styles. 7mm's are plain sexy with the same large variety in weights and styles. and anything a 270 can do a 280 can do better. think of 270 trajectory with the power of a 30-06.
Just how many good bullets do you need for a cartridge to be viable for hunting? Here�s just a few that are available for the .270 Win: 110g, 130g Barnes TTSX 130g Swift Scirocco II 130g Hornady GMX 130g, 140g, 150g Swift A-Frame 130g, 140g Nosler AccuBond and Partition 130g, 150g Hornady InterBond 130g, 150g Barnes MRX 130g, 150g North Fork SS 150g, 160g Nosler Partition And that list doesn�t begin to over the cup-and-core bullets available.
yep, never have, not ever will have a use for such a cartridge.
worse case, a 30-06 with a good stout 180 grain bullet, or a 338 with a 225 or a 250 grain bullet, or any of the large 30 cals. even a little 300 wsm would work wayyy better. power, bullets, range, and accuracy. not that i'm saying a 270 is inaccurate or anything.
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Don�t own a .270 Win myself, but have certainly seen them be effective�
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No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's.
A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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Exotic animals prefer to be shot with exotic calibers. Since elk are not exotic, both the 270 and the 30-06 will service the elk with similar aplomb.
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270 vs 30-06? How many times has this been debated in the last 75 years?
Must be one of the great mysteries in the universe.
Kind of like blondes vs brunettes. How many times has that been debated in the last 5,000 years?
Does anybody really think we can ever get to the bottom of these questions?
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I will take a brunette with blue eyes. That one turns me on. 270 will never be big enough for some guys. And to others the 06 and bigger calibers aren't needed. I own a 30-06 and a 270. Both shoot awesome little groups. Both drill the ten ring at 250 with a dead on hold. But I dont carry either one. I dont think there is a tried and true perfect caliber for everyone. Thats why there are so many options out there. Personally I dont care which caliber rifle or which make someone brings to my camp as long as they can put the bullet where it belongs. 270, 30-06 they will both do the same job as long as the guy behind it does his. I like the "Theres not a nickles worth of difference between the two." line that was used earlier. I love 25 caliber rifles for some reason and would take mine over a 270 or 30-06 anyday. I can say as long as I do what I have to, that round will get it done. But thats me, opinions vary and thankfully we all get to have one. Shoot straight and let the work begin.
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I will take a brunette with blue eyes. Dude...we are definitely on the same page now. I am so with you on that one. Let's get off this boring 270 vs 30-06 stuff for a while and talk chicks. Anybody else in?
"You cannot invade mainland America. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass" ~Admiral Yamamoto~
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Refer to Military Sniping Rifle Thread..... Ingwe
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I would take which ever one I had partition or good solid lead bullet loaded for elk. The difference between them is .277 vs .308 or .o31 which isn't big enough for 99% of the hunters out there to even see much less be able to place better.
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In the arguement about whether the 270 is a better elk rifle than a 243 Win, I'd have to go with a 270. Of course if you have to shoot the 90 grain in the 270 so it doesn't ruin your makeup I'll take the 105 grain 243. Cheers! Wayne
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270 works ok on elk ,the guy i hunt with uses 243or a 708 308 280 300wsm just know your gun and shoot often at diff ranges and use a good bullet, watch best of the west on ODC they swear by a 6.5x284 at 800yds just have to know where your bullet will go
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I've got no use for a 270. If I wanted a smaller caliber than the 30-06 I'd use a 25-06 for antelope and deer. Other wise my hunting rifles start at 30-06.
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I love my .270s. If I feel I need something bigger I go to the .338WM. So, I've taken a .338 on a brown bear hunt and passed on a big grizzly with my .270
I'm probably not going to hunt brown bear again and I ca't ever see affording a polar bear hunt, so I think my .270 will do me for the rest of my days...
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I bought a 270 WSM last year and have bagged pronghorn and whitetail with it.
I would take it for Elk anyday. shot placement is more important than anything.
There was a famous outdoor writer, his name was like O'Conner or something like that, I think he liked the 270........
I would shoot anything in North America with the 270 except maybe moose and Grizzly bear. If I were planning one of those hunts, I might want something bigger.
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There was a famous outdoor writer, his name was like O'Conner or something like that, I think he liked the 270........
Although he allegedly confessed, in his latter days, that he actually liked the 280 better. Anyway, these arguments are silly to begin with. Everyone knows that Man Rules of Riflery require us to possess, at minimum, rifles chambered for half a dozen different cartridges per species hunted in order to ensure that we never... ever... run out of material to fuel caliber/cartridge/rifle arguments.
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Didn't know the .270 met the minimum cartridge size for Elk. You sure one can legally use them? Anyway, the stuff you learn here is never ending, so I guess I'm wrong again. Bob: Scotch on an Elk hunt? That's just not right. I mean if the horses got into that chit, they would die and then what would one do?
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i'd take it over a sharp stick and a rock... If I could get both I wouldn't. Only the rock or sharp stick, I would give it some thought.
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Splitting atoms is all we are doing here..... I'd just grab my .280 and go hunting or maybe even my new 7SAUM CLB
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The specifics of the rifle might be the way I'd choose. I'd gladly take the 270 over the '06 even if the 270 was a M700...if the '06 was a Garand. But if the rifles were otherwise essentially identical, then I'd go with the '06.
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I suppose it really only matters which one you shoot more accurately. I have both and have used both on elk and I can't tell the difference. I prefer the 30-06 simply because I like the rifle it is chambered in better than my rifle chambered in 270.
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I own both rifles and I'd say the 30-06. my 270 is a savage 110 and my 30-06 is a JC Higgins FN Mauser and the old sears rifle just feels better
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