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Wasn't that the God of the left, FDR? Apparently he is one of the conservative gods as well. They do seem to like a president being able to round up whole groups of US citizens with the stroke of a pen which is interesting considering the opinions they express on the current squatter.
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sounds like another young teacher, inculcated from first grade on, in the standard lefty party line.
Teachers, and the American education system have been infected with the communist virus. Teachers catch it in elementary school, and pass it on.
JasonB is a prime example.
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Start with the principal and then go to the school board if needed. Good for you for standing up! What he said.. Don't let it go.. Keep on it until results are found..
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sounds like another young teacher, inculcated from first grade on, in the standard lefty party line.
Teachers, and the American education system have been infected with the communist virus. Teachers catch it in elementary school, and pass it on.
JasonB is a prime example. You are in favor of presidents being able to cart people off on a whim, yet you mention the Bonnie Blue Flag in your sig line. That combination would be amusing if you were in some other country.
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Unless there's a tape of the teacher's statement, you have no idea the point the teacher was actually attempting to make to a class full of skulls full of mush. They only understand about ten percent of complex points a teacher is attempting to make, even in high school. Just lack the intellectual framework to understand complex points.
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My daughter has been a straight A student for years and tests in the top 1% of her age group. She reads at senior in high school level. I told her to tell me the entire context of the discussion as I had to have exactly what was said. I am very confident that this teacher is off base.
I am also quite confident that a large percentage of this group of teachers is incapable of making a complex point.
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moose I don't know the structure of the Colorado school system so can only advise on what I do know.
If you are going to get anywhere you must follow procedure. PITA to do that but trust me it is the only way to get things worked out. First go to conference with the teacher. If you can get no satisfaction then: Second take it to the principal. Principal is only going to know what the teacher has told them so be sure to have notes and as much documentation as you can in hand. No satisfaction there then: Third take it to the school Superintendent. That is the principals boss. Who is only going to know what the principal chooses to tell them. Same documentation etc etc. If no satisfaction then: Take it to the school board who are only going to know what the Supe has told them. The will have a natural bias to believe whatever they are told by the "Authorities" and will also be naturally biased for their employees and against your kid. Realize that going in. Keep your cool in the face of rampant stupidity and have all the documentation you can muster and you may get something done.
Jump through all the hoops and make sure to dot all i's and cross all t's.
You as a parent are dealing with "Educators" who are self admitted "experts" no matter how goofy they are.
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My daughter's 8th grade English teacher felt the need to discuss how America's treatment of Japanese citizens made us no better than Nazis. The class to their credit, disagreed with her and her complete anti-American bias became readily apparent.
I've emailed the principal and am planning on pursuing this topic for a while. This has happened repeatedly and I am completely fed up with these losers who call themselves teachers. Time to let them hear what I think I reckon.
Should I pound on the school board or be content to just go to the principal? Never done this before so any previous experiences are appreciated. Regardless, I'm not taking this crap. Some of these posts offer good ammunition for when you're talking to them, I'll add another. School teachers are increasingly becomming just like journalists. Rather than teach a subject, or report on a news story, they think they need to form public opinion. This almost always means putting a left slant on everything out their mouths. It's not the school system's, nor the news broadcast company's, job to warp young minds towards the lies of anti-American socialist democrats. School has become no different than the news. Brainwashing propaganda pushers. They need stopped. And they will be.
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My daughter's 8th grade English teacher felt the need to discuss how America's treatment of Japanese citizens made us no better than Nazis. The class to their credit, disagreed with her and her complete anti-American bias became readily apparent.
I've emailed the principal and am planning on pursuing this topic for a while. This has happened repeatedly and I am completely fed up with these losers who call themselves teachers. Time to let them hear what I think I reckon.
Should I pound on the school board or be content to just go to the principal? Never done this before so any previous experiences are appreciated. Regardless, I'm not taking this crap. I think those that say to start down and go up as needed, until you get satisfaction, are correct. I would personally start with the teacher herself, asking her if she was aware that the Nazis murdered millions of civilians for ethnic cleansing and asking her how she can equate that to a few years of determent, right or wrong. Move up to the Principal, etc. Could be she was just having a bad day.
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Unless there's a tape of the teacher's statement, you have no idea the point the teacher was actually attempting to make to a class full of skulls full of mush. They only understand about ten percent of complex points a teacher is attempting to make, even in high school. Just lack the intellectual framework to understand complex points. How do you define "intellectual framework" and what is a "complex point"?
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My daughter's 8th grade English teacher felt the need to discuss how America's treatment of Japanese citizens made us no better than Nazis. ... There's no way the teacher can claim, in any sane way, that this made the US no better than the Nazi's. You are right to take it up with the administration. The internment of US citizens, though, was truly shameful. I have had the honor of meeting people who were at Heart Mountain and other camps. Some were young children when they were sent to the camps, and some saw their fathers leave to fight with distinction with the 442nd and other units. Incredible people, with amazing character, and we could do with more like them. Nazis, we weren't. But it was an awful chapter in our history, nonetheless. And given the rhetoric around Washington, D.C. these days, it's a lesson we'd all do well to remember. FC
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My daughter's 8th grade English teacher felt the need to discuss how America's treatment of Japanese citizens made us no better than Nazis. The class to their credit, disagreed with her and her complete anti-American bias became readily apparent.
I've emailed the principal and am planning on pursuing this topic for a while. This has happened repeatedly and I am completely fed up with these losers who call themselves teachers. Time to let them hear what I think I reckon.
Should I pound on the school board or be content to just go to the principal? Never done this before so any previous experiences are appreciated. Regardless, I'm not taking this crap. You mean your not going to stand for this teachers attempted brain washing of your child? It's happening ever day in America. The result is people like obama in office. If we are going to take America back we need to start with the schools and those young minds before the commies get them all.
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Remember when you slit your veins do it lengthwise. I think they took Jason back to the lockdown ward.
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They did kill some of them. How many more could they have knocked off before it became an ethics problem in your opinion? Do you have any documentation for that statement?
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They did kill some of them. How many more could they have knocked off before it became an ethics problem in your opinion? Well, first of all. Who are "they"? Who are "them"? and then please elaborate. The US governemnt did kill some US citizens that the US government put in to concentration camps in the 1940s. How many more US citizens could the US have killed before it would have been unseemly for several of you since putting US citizens in concentration camps in the first place isn't a problem for several of you and also taking actions leading to the deaths of come of those in the camps also isn't a problem. Ah. we're just pikers compared to the japs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre And try as we might we just can't quite equal good old fastioned squareheaded efficiency..... The Holocaust was the systematic annihilation of six million Jews during the Nazi genocide - in 1933 nine million Jews lived in the 21 countries of Europe that would be occupied by Nazi Germany during World War 2. By 1945 two out of every three European Jews had been killed. The number of children killed during the Holocaust is not fathomable and full statistics for the tragic fate of children who died will never be known. Estimates range as high as 1.5 million murdered children. This figure includes more than 1.2 million Jewish children, tens of thousands of Gypsy children and thousands of institutionalized handicapped children. In his book Sheltering The Jews the Holocaust historian Mordecai Paldiel later wrote: "Never before in history had children been singled out for destruction for no other reason than having been born. Children, of course, were no match for the Nazis' mighty and sophisticated killing machine .." KZ Dachau was the first concentration camp established in Nazi Germany - the camp was opened on March 22, 1933. The camp's first inmates were primarily political prisoners, Social Democrats, Communists, trade unionists, habitual criminals, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, beggars, vagrants, hawkers. In the late 1930's the Nazis killed thousands of handicapped Germans by lethal injection and poisonous gas. After the German invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941, mobile killing units following in the wake of the German Army began shooting massive numbers of Jews and Gypsies in open fields and ravines on the outskirts of conquered cities and towns. Eventually the Nazis created a more secluded and organized method of killing. Extermination centers were established in occupied Poland with special apparatus especially designed for mass murder. Giant death machines. Six such death camps existed: Auschwitz-Birkenau, Belzec, Chelmno, Majdanek, Sobibor, and Treblinka. Large-scale murder by gas and body disposal through cremation were conducted systematically by the Nazis and Adolf Hitler's SS men .. Victims were deported to these centers from Western Europe and from the ghettos in Eastern Europe which the Nazis had established. In addition, millions died in the ghettos and concentration camps as a result of forced labor, starvation, exposure, brutality, disease, and execution. - Louis B�low Not a bad read if you have the stomach for it. http://www.deathcamps.info/ And finally. Remember when you slit your veins do it lengthwise. dave
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How many Japanese-Americans were incinerated?
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They did kill some of them. How many more could they have knocked off before it became an ethics problem in your opinion? Perhaps you have forgotten the context in which such measures were taken: Japan had demonstrated the treatment of their enemies in China, Burma, and the Phillipines (to name a few). Not to justify it but the interment of the Japanese was nothing compared to the genocide and mayhem the Japanese were creating everywhere they went. The United States was not a World Superpower at the time. It was populated by mostly rural people who were struggling to survive the Depression and had no interest in participating in the War. The idea of involving the Country in WW2 and repeating Wilson's mistake 25 years ealier was wildly unpopular. The shockwave that hit our Nation when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor was huge. The Country was ill prepared for war let alone having the intelligence resources to decipher who among us might be agents of the Japanese or worse. The Government had to (rightly at the time) take any and all measures necessary to ensure the safety of the Citizens. Imagine what might have happened to the Japanese residents of the United States had some sort of action been taken by Japanese agents and/or sympathizers within our borders. Or perhaps you are merely the product of a liberal and revisionist education system which refuses to acknowledge all of the facts or any the context of events which transpired nearly 70 years ago.
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They did kill some of them. How many more could they have knocked off before it became an ethics problem in your opinion? Well, first of all. Who are "they"? Who are "them"? and then please elaborate. The US governemnt did kill some US citizens that the US government put in to concentration camps in the 1940s. How many more US citizens could the US have killed before it would have been unseemly for several of you since putting US citizens in concentration camps in the first place isn't a problem for several of you and also taking actions leading to the deaths of come of those in the camps also isn't a problem. You got any attribution or references to this story or did you just pull it out of your ass???
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They did kill some of them. How many more could they have knocked off before it became an ethics problem in your opinion? Well, first of all. Who are "they"? Who are "them"? and then please elaborate. The US governemnt did kill some US citizens that the US government put in to concentration camps in the 1940s. How many more US citizens could the US have killed before it would have been unseemly for several of you since putting US citizens in concentration camps in the first place isn't a problem for several of you and also taking actions leading to the deaths of come of those in the camps also isn't a problem. You got any attribution or references to this story or did you just pull it out of your ass??? Facts, are ALWAYS this fuggin' idiots downfall.
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Gee, I almost forgot, isn't this close to the same reason Ward Churchill got push out of his job, or at least lit the fuse to get him fired?
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