Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles There it is, a 115-grain from the .257 Bob at 3000+ fps

I don't know about Clay....but I do know that I shot a very large (not 450 lb) bruin in Montana with a 63 Sierra @ 178 yds and the bullet basically went end to end and exited where his Adams Apple is. Do bruins have A Apples...?

Point being, the fact that someone supposed did it with a Swede means absolutely notta to me.

Dober

has anyone started talking about Sectional Density yet? I want to stay tuned for the next round. Gosh a 115 Barnes out of Bob at 3000 is real interesting to me but the 100TSX is all I need.

i shot a decent whitetail in the right front shoulder (facing me at a little angle) and recovered the 160 Hornady RN under the hide of the left rump. this when launched from a .264 Win.

For what it's worth,NC (eastern) black bears don't carry much fat,they're active all winter,no need to sleep,too hot.But, they do get big from all the farmer's crops.The state record is a little over 800lbs,as I recall. I'm not surprised the 160 Horny bullet stopped,my bud's 6.5x54MS stopped a lot on his African hunt,but shots were all spot on and stuff died....
OK,back to crankin on the Bob.....

toad,

I have also seen the 160 Hornady 6.5 RN stopped on a broadside shot on an average whitetail buck--from a 6.5x55.

My point in my first post is that the penetration varies considerably with that bullet, and from what I can tell the penetration often depends on how much it expands. This varies from shot to shot, depending what it hits and impact velocity.

If I want consistently deep penetration with a 6.5, I pick some sort of premium bullet, whether a 140 Nosler Partition or a 120-130 TSX.

Easy guys, maybe if we're lucky we'll learn what Clay Harvey thought of the 284!

Who is Clay Harvey?

Wouldn't that be fascinating?

One of the few shooting books I've round-filed over the years was one of Clay's. I can't remember the exact title (which says something in itself) but it was something like POPULAR SPORTING RIFLE CARTRIDGES, and was supposedly an in-depth look at 50 hunting rounds, with handloading information.

I was sent a review copy. After reading it I decided to add up the number of cartridges that Clay had used to shoot even one animal, based on the information provided in the book. It turned out he'd actually hunted with maybe a third of the rounds. And he hadn't actually fired a rifle chambered for a few of the cartridges.

Hey, come to think of it, this is a lot like some of the
hunting experience we read about on the Internet!

Who is "Amanuel" ?

I'm not a gun writer, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn last night but I have seen what a 25 caliber can do on an occasion or three. I've yet to have the desire to use 115's and 120's, though I don't doubt they work, albeit with way over penetration....

Just a dink shot with a 25. I can only imagine what a 160gr RN from a Swede would have done.

I had the same book. I remember his story of taking an animal out to 400+ yards with a 308 Winchester. At my age then I was fascinated by that story. I eventually threw away my copy too as I felt my actual experience with a 308 Win afield was a far better teacher.

I've heard something like that before about TSX's

Can't really say with a 25 caliber, as I've only used X version, but they do way over penetrate.

You can't kill bears wearing a yellow shirt.

The yellow was countered with a blue rifle, so it gives a zero color effect. At least that's according to 'Overcoming Big Game Color Vision' by Clay Harvey.

JB, I seen 160 gr Hornaday 6.5 bullets stopped on Med sized White Tails myself, since I have maybe 6 or seven of them. I have shot a swede for a lot of years now. I am more inclined to go with a 156 gr Norma Oryx for heavy than white tails, if I wanted to stick with a heavy bullet. I seen nothing wrong with the 257 Roberts, I never owned one, but I would shoot game with one in a NYC second if some one offered up a rifle so chambered for the season. Now I have shot and hunted with a .250-3000 with both 100 gr and 117 gr Hornadays, and I never found that cartridge to be lacking. If anything most people would be able to shoot that one better than most and sticking a 100 gr Hornaday or 117 gr Hornaday RN in a good spot and well have a sharp knife handy. On day I would like to have a NULA Model 20 so chambered, a sort of modern Savage Model 20. Spent to many years reading and rereading Kollers "Shots at White Tails.

I need to find a copy of that to read, I see it referenced often.

gmsemsel,

The 156 Oryx is a good bullet--and both in 6.5 and 7mm. I have taken some 400-pound animals with it and it penetrates pretty darn well!

I am also a big fan of the .250 Savage, and like you (and Larry Koller) have never found it lacking on whitetails (or pronghorns or mule deer), though I've never taken any animals much past 200 yards with it.

Well, except for varmints. It will do a job on a prairie dog out to 400-500 yards....

Steelhead,

It is a good book. I might even have an extra copy. Let me check.

Thank you