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If your daughter got a dui and failed to meet the conditions of probation? Give me a break... My Son was a drug user, he got bad, real bad. Robbing houses for items to sell for drugs, robbed my home too of items to sell for money for drugs. Broke into local vets office and stole drugs to help his habit. Arrested 17 times, I personally turned him in 11 of those times. Personally took him for drug testing, took the drugs I found in my home, all his personal drug paraphernalia and took him to the police station. Called the police and had them pick him up in my home with drugs. Kicked his ass, all 6'1" of it, literally, no Father (he refused to believe it) to rely on for help, just me. Stood with him in court while he was told his punishment each time, and walked away when they took him to his punishment, telling him I would be there for him, but would turn his ass in every time, and I did. Best damn thing I ever did for him. Today he is a good man, and a Father that will kick his daughter's ass when/if she decides to take the wrong road. So would I kick my daughter's asses ? Oh yeah, I would, each and every time they screwed up, and they know it.... Something great to hear about a parent without Enablers Disease!
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I can't believe I just read this entire thread.
Shame on me. I was just thinking the same about myself, Mako.
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I wonder how forgiving folks would be if their daughter or wife was killed by this drunk while she was DUI?
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If your daughter got a dui and failed to meet the conditions of probation? Give me a break... My Son was a drug user, he got bad, real bad. Robbing houses for items to sell for drugs, robbed my home too of items to sell for money for drugs. Broke into local vets office and stole drugs to help his habit. Arrested 17 times, I personally turned him in 11 of those times. Personally took him for drug testing, took the drugs I found in my home, all his personal drug paraphernalia and took him to the police station. Called the police and had them pick him up in my home with drugs. Kicked his ass, all 6'1" of it, literally, no Father (he refused to believe it) to rely on for help, just me. Stood with him in court while he was told his punishment each time, and walked away when they took him to his punishment, telling him I would be there for him, but would turn his ass in every time, and I did. Best damn thing I ever did for him. Today he is a good man, and a Father that will kick his daughter's ass when/if she decides to take the wrong road. So would I kick my daughter's asses ? Oh yeah, I would, each and every time they screwed up, and they know it.... Something great to hear about a parent without Enablers Disease! Would be even better if the parents hadn't let their kid get to the point of robbing for drugs in the first place IMO.
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If your daughter got a dui and failed to meet the conditions of probation? Give me a break... My Son was a drug user, he got bad, real bad. Robbing houses for items to sell for drugs, robbed my home too of items to sell for money for drugs. Broke into local vets office and stole drugs to help his habit. Arrested 17 times, I personally turned him in 11 of those times. Personally took him for drug testing, took the drugs I found in my home, all his personal drug paraphernalia and took him to the police station. Called the police and had them pick him up in my home with drugs. Kicked his ass, all 6'1" of it, literally, no Father (he refused to believe it) to rely on for help, just me. Stood with him in court while he was told his punishment each time, and walked away when they took him to his punishment, telling him I would be there for him, but would turn his ass in every time, and I did. Best damn thing I ever did for him. Today he is a good man, and a Father that will kick his daughter's ass when/if she decides to take the wrong road. So would I kick my daughter's asses ? Oh yeah, I would, each and every time they screwed up, and they know it.... Something great to hear about a parent without Enablers Disease! Haha! I'm going to bite my lip... really hard. For all the "Christians". Think of Lindsay as the woman at the well.. or the woman caught in Adultry. For you guys who like like to argue for the sake of arguing.. Do you think the punishment fits the crime? 90 days in jail for not going to some alcohol training, because of a DUI. Seems a little excessive to me.
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I think she would be better off with a thorough spanking - any volunteers -  -- ?????
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For you guys who like like to argue for the sake of arguing.. Do you think the punishment fits the crime? 90 days in jail for not going to some alcohol training, because of a DUI. Seems a little excessive to me. if it was the first time, probably so. based solely on what I read yesterday afternoon, she missed at least half of the sessions she agreed to do on condition of not going to jail for the DUI. And she got caught drinking. more than once. by my count, this is her 9th or 10th strike with this judge. drunk driving is an ever-growing problem and CA's laws are a cakewalk compared to a state like UT.
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I'd say that Lindsay is a good representative of that generation. Sad. I wish her the best and hope she gets her act together. I wouldn't say generation is the best word to use... but of that type of group yes, I probably agree.
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I'm not so sure I'm comfortable with the gov imprisoning somebody for missing half of their alcohol classes.. Give her a hefty fine, but 90 days of imprisonment?
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For you guys who like like to argue for the sake of arguing.. Do you think the punishment fits the crime? 90 days in jail for not going to some alcohol training, because of a DUI. Seems a little excessive to me.
If she weighed 300 lbs and hadda big wart on her jaw, you wouldn't care if she did 6 months.
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For you guys who like like to argue for the sake of arguing.. Do you think the punishment fits the crime? 90 days in jail for not going to some alcohol training, because of a DUI. Seems a little excessive to me. if it was the first time, probably so. based solely on what I read yesterday afternoon, she missed at least half of the sessions she agreed to do on condition of not going to jail for the DUI. And she got caught drinking. more than once. by my count, this is her 9th or 10th strike with this judge. drunk driving is an ever-growing problem and CA's laws are a cakewalk compared to a state like UT. Wow. She sounds like a problem child, unfortunately. It appears they are making an example of her. Who knows, could be the best thing that ever happened to her.
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For you guys who like like to argue for the sake of arguing.. Do you think the punishment fits the crime? 90 days in jail for not going to some alcohol training, because of a DUI. Seems a little excessive to me.
If she weighed 300 lbs and hadda big wart on her jaw, you wouldn't care if she did 6 months. How do you know? Didn't realize you could read minds..
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For you guys who like like to argue for the sake of arguing
I'm not so sure I'm comfortable with the gov imprisoning somebody for missing half of their alcohol classes.. Give her a hefty fine, but 90 days of imprisonment? ok.... she didn't go to jail for the first DUI. she got to choose between jail or the classes (kinda like "pay the ticket/get the points" vs "go to traffic school" for a speeding ticket). she then not only failed to live up to her end of the agreement (pre-written penalty=90days), she kept drinking & driving during the probation period.
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I have to thank you for that you tube, that is truely awe inspiring, sent it to a few friends, said it reminded me of a liberal.
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[bleep], I know of burglars who never spent 90 days in jail and they're breaking into someone's frinkin home for God's sake.
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Hell its only 3 months. Maybe she can opt for boot camp or something else instead jail. Either way, she needs to do something instead of finding new ways to violate probation. Besides, its the hottest time of the year and she'll have AC in the can. In general, I find it odd the Christian versus non-Christian arguments here. She has my Christian sympathy, but she violated her [bleep] court ordered obligation. Do not pass go. [bleep], I know of burglars who never spent 90 days in jail and they're breaking into someone's frinkin home for God's sake. they should've been shot.
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She has my Christian sympathy, but she violated her [bleep] court ordered obligation.
Do not pass go.[quote]
Prezactly.
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googling CA DUI law: 1st offense: 96hrs to 6 months 2nd offense: 90days to 12 months 3rd offense" 120days to 12 months Google-fulet's be charitable and say it was her first offense. Judge could have sentenced her to up to six months straight off. Judge gave her an out (do the weekly classes). she didn't. not only that, she got caught driving with a measurable BAC. she's lucky she "only" got 90 days, given the leeway the judge had.
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Good...Glad to see no ones immune.
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