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Don't forget Quannah Parker and his Comanche, not to take away from Geronimo & the 'pache but they were also the scourge of both Mex & the anglo's.

most of my experience has been around the yavapai apache, which they call themselves. The heard museum where i was at one day, said they wern'et apache. I think they need to tell that to the yavapai. They have pretty much been integrated into local society for a long time. Truthfully, i have more in common being raised and having gone to school with them then many of the later arrivals to the central arizona area. As a group, they were pretty highly thought of in local circles and it is jus a fact they would not have their reservation, casino's etc. without a lot of help from the local anglo businessmen at the time.
A few years ago i was on the rez buying gas next to a member about my age. As we started comparing notes and friends, had a good time complaining about the kalifornicators that had moved into the area.
By this stage of the game, there has also been some integration into the white communities too. An example would be my nephews have gila indian in them. But then my wife has cherokee in her. Strangely the old habits dont go away. one of these nephews spent a week with a blanket in the matzatal wilderness area packing a few years ago.

i live on a dirt poor indian rez with Lakota(Sioux) and Assiniboine on it and a smattering of others......lots of crime and drugs typical of any poor area but as a white boy thats lived his entire life on it and a from a family thats been in the area for close to 100 years it aint a big deal.....granted here i am the minority but whatever, never had a problem due to race or any of that....know lots of good folks in the tribes....also know a heck of alot of tribal members here spend time in the military.....

Quannah Parker was a half breed and the Comanche played hell in TX . one of my ancestors was one of the first Texas rangers and was killed by Comanche's. i think Alan_R_McDaniel_Jr is also a decedent of this Ranger

Yep, his mother was a white capture that went native. She died when finally returned to her white family and moved away from her stomping grounds.

A good book on him and her is "Empire of the summer moon".

If I remember correctly, Geronimo's real name was not
Geronimo. It was a name given to him by the Mexicans,
his birth name which I cant remember right now, translated
into English meant, "He who yawns"

I have also heard that when Geronimo and his men surrendered
to the USArmy that they had hidden their rifles in a canyon
and they were never found. Then again, I dont beleive everything that I hear.

Goyahkla, Goyaał�: "one who yawns"



I speak alot in symbolism, especially in this thread. I'm 53, I was out yesterday humping the mountains in some rough country with two hard hunting brothers in their twenties, Josh said I needed to stop and let them take a break now and then... Cory said, which leg did you break, It's like trying to keep up with a mountain goat... last sept when I was in the hospital after surgery to fix my leg, a woman doctor came in and asked if I was as old as my chart said, I said I guess if it say's 52. She asked if I was an athlete and I said, nope, just a redneck. She laughed and said, well I just had to see for myself after looking at your chart.

Never the less, I feel old and tired... in the soul.

I am... Geronimo

Kent

"Endeavor to persevere."

Mudhen, interesting story and thanks for the explanation about "Bronco Apaches."

I read awhile back about a guy that shared a campfire with an Apache that he referred to as a "Bronco" somewhere in the Sierra Madre. This was shortly after Geronimo's surrender and the writer said this Apache still started fires without matches (something that he claimed meant they rarely had contact with whites) and still wore the Apache boot, tools, and had clothing items that showed he wasn't an agency Indian.

i have a early book, published in the 30's the only other copy i know of is in charlotte hall museum in prescott.
it talks somewhat of the apache.
they had various real entertaining ways of prolonging the enjoyment of watching a guy scream.

Which Indian chief said" We hunt,we eat well,we sleep well,we have lots of babies and the women do everything else-carry wood,carry water,prepare meat, cook, clean, we pay no taxes, we don't go to any schools, have no use for money, only the whiteman would think that he could improve the system."
True quote.

My first school was Cynthia Ann Parker Elementary in Houston.

Quanah's mother.

Been through the town of Quannah, TX quite a few times when son & I were driving OTR.

Quanah , Lee . Only one "N" - same as his name .It's just up the hiway from where I sit .

My father's father was half-Comanche and half white . His young Comanche mother left him at the Indian School at Decatur Tx when he was 12 but she remained in contact with him .

She never divulged who his white father was but the Gov't records say a Missouri man , name unknown .