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Originally Posted by Big_Redhead
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Quiz: Does anyone know the name for the projectile inside the sabot?


Time's up. It's called a "flechette." Don't ask me how to pronounce it.


Fleh-shet' with the accent on the last syllable.


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Originally Posted by MZ5
Oddly, that symbol indicates the sound of the "a" in bad or cat. If both "a"s in the name are to be pronounced that way, then it's really not "GAIR-" at all.


It would be GAR-und. The u is the schwa sound. The schwa character is apparently not available in html. I tried it.


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Originally Posted by Big_Redhead
The schwa character is apparently not available in html. I tried it.

It's an almost unpronounceable slurred-over vowel � one of the most common phonemes in English, usually repreresented in pronunciation guides with an up-side-down lower-case e

like the 'a' in about
like the 'e' in taken
like the 'i' in pencil
like the 'o' in eloquent
like the 'u' in supply
like the 'y' in sibyl


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I once asked a student to give me the sound made by schwa. His hesitant response was, "Uh, uh, uh..." At this point I cut him off and told him that he had it correct the first time and that the second two responses were superfluous. I've always thought that it would help matters a great deal if the spelling/pronunciation of the word was schwuh instaed of schwa.


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Ken,

I know what the schwa sound is. You're not the only one that paid attention in English class.


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Originally Posted by Big_Redhead
Ken,

I know what the schwa sound is. You're not the only one that paid attention in English class.

And you're not the only one on the forum besides me.


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Originally Posted by Big_Redhead
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Oddly, that symbol indicates the sound of the "a" in bad or cat. If both "a"s in the name are to be pronounced that way, then it's really not "GAIR-" at all.


It would be GAR-und. The u is the schwa sound. The schwa character is apparently not available in html. I tried it.

No, the schwa sound is indicated by an upside down and backwards "e." The 'smiley' indicates what I wrote above.

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Originally Posted by MZ5
No, the schwa sound is indicated by an upside down and backwards "e."


Like I said, I know what the schwa sound is. And like I posted above, the schwa symbol (unside-down e) is not available to posters here on the forum, as far as I know. That's why I substituted the "u" with an explanation.


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Originally Posted by Ken Howell
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Ken,

I know what the schwa sound is. You're not the only one that paid attention in English class.

And you're not the only one on the forum besides me.


Touch�! grin


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Ken,

I know what the schwa sound is. You're not the only one that paid attention in English class.

And you're not the only one on the forum besides me.


Touch�! grin

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Originally Posted by Big_Redhead


Like I said, I know what the schwa sound is. And like I posted above, the schwa symbol (unside-down e) is not available to posters here on the forum, as far as I know. That's why I substituted the "u" with an explanation.

I see that I misunderstood what you meant; sorry about that. I thought you were referring to the roughly "u" shape above the "a" (that also can't be posted) founf in Hatcher's dscription of how the man introduced himself.

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Well, Since John Garand was a French-Canadian born in St-Remi just outside of Montreal, (if memory serves,) his actual name may have been Jean Cantius Garand (the final "nd" is silent and that last "a" would be a nasal a.) He moved to Connecticut at a yound age so his name probably changed from Jean to John to make it easier for the locals. The name Garand simply evolved from Gah-rahn to Gu-rand and that's what he would use.

Sabot is not pronounced 'say-boh'; think of sabotage, we do not pronounce it "say-boh-taj". They both start with sah-boh: sabot= sah-boh and sabotage = sah-boh-taj.

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sabot = "[It]'s a bow." (Just omit the it).

(See, Big Redhead? I paid attention in French class, too � even though Miss Butler was a delectable distraction!)


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For our Boston members....

Car is pronounced car, not Ca.
Idea is pronounced idea, not idear.

Never for the life of me understood why they took the "r" off words that have it, and put it on words that don't. grin

now this new yorker is going to have some cuoffee wink


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One who really used to bug my dad was the TV anchor in Baltimore or Washington who brought us "the nooz at nyewn." (Who no doubt would've clipped and saved bales of kewpons if they'd enable him to drive his caah to Cuber.)

My old Navy buddy from Lon[g] Guyland Noo Yock never even tried to explain why I saw it was pronounced "I sorrit."


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Originally Posted by Ken Howell
sabot = "[It]'s a bow." (Just omit the it).

(See, Big Redhead? I paid attention in French class, too � even though Miss Butler was a delectable distraction!)


Ken, that's very good. Now, are we talking about a ship or a present?

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It always bugs me when all of a sudden everyone agrees to gussie up the pronunciation of a word. Case in point would be tournament. It used to be plain old "turn-uh-munt", then Dickie Vee came along and now it's got to "toorn-uh-ment".


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"Mawige, mawidge is wat bwings us togever today. That bwessed awangement, a dweem wiven a dweem." - Prince's Bride.

"Have you da wing?"


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I've wondered why so many pronounce infra-structure as
infa-structure. Has anyone else notice this when watching tv news?

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Yes I have, just as I notice every single time anyone either says or writes "manufacture" when they mean "manufacturer," or "meer" when they mean "mirror."

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