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My fear stems from the fact that we are still seeing the same old faces and hearing the same old platitudes from all the usual suspects. If we cannot find new and true men & women of character to step up to the plate we are in deep kimche, period.

It absolutely amazes me that folks deny that capitalism WORKS, but it is the only thing that can save this great nation, the government can not do it, it is in the way dammitt. Great advances in agriculture and manufacturing is what built us as a nation, not a bunch of hall walkers in DC fer cats sake.

My fear stems from the fact that we are still seeing the same old faces and hearing the same old platitudes from all the usual suspects. If we cannot find new and true men & women of character to step up to the plate we are in deep kimche, period.

It absolutely amazes me that folks deny that capitalism WORKS, but it is the only thing that can save this great nation, the government can not do it, it is in the way dammitt. Great advances in agriculture and manufacturing is what built us as a nation, not a bunch of hall walkers in DC fer cats sake.

I'd be for 100+ years of hard work to get us back there. However, the Reagan years would be a step in that direction. Not perfect, but better.

I'll take all the progressive crap that we currently have, as long as we can STOP the progression (regression in reality) in its tracks, and START the improvement back towards a Constitutional Government.

100+ years of hard, rough work, sure beats the collapse or any civil war.

Thankfully, we are NO WHERE NEAR that point. Our legal system is strong. Not infallible, but strong. The Constitution IS still the Law of the Land, and when enforced, as it soon will be, things will work out.

Many of the Governors of our States are starting to assert their 10th Amendment rights, people are moved to action as we saw today in DC. If the politicians want their cash cows, they will HAVE to appease the public, or else they are out of office, as this November will prove.

We are a far cry from a call to arms. We are even a far cry from civil unrest. I'd say we are at civil discomfort, and people are starting to readjust.

sorry fish head, I respectfully disagree with your premise.

the ole "if the US sneezes the rest of the world catches a cold"

will not apply in the future in my estimation.

yes there will be changes if our economy tanks, it will be an adjustment for China to figure out who's gonna buy our cheap plastic crap?

some puter guys are likely to get laid off in India etc, etc


but countries that are stable and have growing economies China, India, Brazil and Canada and perhaps Australia come to mind and a growing middle class will fare better than debtor nations that have come to the conclusion the only way out is to inflate our way out.


I don't WANT or believe an armed revolution is warranted or necessary. But if our economy hits hyperinflation, and folks get hungry there will be a civil disturbance that goes way beyond civil disobedience imo.


We'll end up having martial law declared, and my concern is if such happens our elected leaders will see China as the pattern to follow, strong central gov't, with some freedom, especially economic freedom for the masses, but we're gonna have to seriously curtail BOR #1 & #2 if there is to be safety and prosperity. And that is what folks want heh? Safety and prosperity!

they'll be glad to offer it up provided we give up some on 1 & 2


the conditions are ripe for peace in a free country when there's more food than firearms

but if the situation were to occur that firearms are more available than food, you'll end up with violence and hungry bellies.

but the gov't can fix that, and most of our population will cry out for them to do so imo.

by any reasonable accounting standards, our nation is in a hell of a mess fiscally.


it is incredible to me the "head in the sand" attitudes I see by some here that believe if we just elect the GOP they'll pull us out of this gig.

they are mostly the same folks, GOOD folks I might add, that prior to the election in '08 brushed aside the idea that the wealthiest nation the world has ever seen would ever fall into such dire financial straits.


perhaps Bristoe and even Ron Paul are both nutjobs as some have suggested here. But even crazy men utter the truth on occassion.


imo and analysis, we could elect John Wayne, Ronald Reagan, and Mother Teresa and they still couldn't get us out of this mess without severe pain.

in fact we've gone so long spending money we don't have and issuing new debt to do so, that the cure may be danged near as deadly as the cancer at this stage.

we're not in END TIMES, but we very well may be in the times when the shift of the balance of power in this world is occuring.

if we are we can thank our elected leaders for such and the apathetic people they were elected to lead.


the election of Obama accelerated the pace imo. but he's not to blame entirely. I feel we'd be headed the same way with McCain at the helm albeit at perhaps a slower pace.

but what I analyze is this. Obama is going to deliver on his major campaign strategy.


CHANGE is coming


you'd best HOPE you're prepared for it.

I am still a firm believer in the ballot box.