Home Forums Lever Action Central Big Bore Levers Which lever action rifle and caliber would be the deadliest?

Sorry, you really need to get out more.

The BLR action are mag action not long mag action
mag action's will handle ... 7 MM ren Mag 300 Win Mag
338 Win Mag 458 Win Mag ..Long Mag action will handle
404 Jeffery -375 H&H- 378 Weatherby -416 Rigby
460 Weatherby Etc ........The BLR Mag action will handle the normal mag length round's NOT the Large mag action round's

I love these ideas!
What would a .375 based on a .300 Winchester be called? Is it already named? What about a 416 on the same? I wonder what velocities they would generate?

Well you could always neck the 458 to .423 and call it a
404 jeffery's short...

reloadersnest.com shows a 35-300 win mag pushing a 250 gr bullet at 2800 fps. I wonder how it would do with a 300 gr. I've also looked at a .416 Taylor-a necked down 458 win-which shows a 350 gr bullet @2424 fps. Pac-Nor barrels chambers both, and Redding makes dies. Both run a head dia. of .532 and the 458 case is slightly shorter that the .300 win mag. I believe they will work. Martinpotts, are you a 'smith, does this all sound correct?

Two more ideas (like those of martinpotts and cobar). Use older '81 long action (be sure no plastic gear teeth) for either .458 Win or .425 Express (.300 Win necked up for .423 (Jeffery) bullets). Check barrel diameter to possibly just rebore a .300. An extra couple of magazines in your pocket couldn't be totally bad idea. A couple of holes under the recoil pad filled counter weight also might be something to think about. Stay as close to the orginal case that the magazine was designed for. Magazine alterations are always a bad idea.

Oh No!!! What have you done??!! Have you waved the red flag of 450 Marlin verses 45-70 in front of the faces of the convinced? Please, oh please, oh please don't start this up again. It's like a baptist (me) trying to talk an Assembly of God person out of tongues. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

No, its more like getting people to face the facts. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Jackfish if it was about getting folks to face facts, the 405 would be the main topic. It'll out do any factory cartridge you can sanely load thru a JM Browning or Marlin designed gun. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Ranch 13- not totally true since you can get a 300gr .444 up to 2200 in a full rifle (not carbine) barrel, ie; .405 ballistics. But for the purpose originally asked, we need to step past the rising bar locking (Win & Marlin m86,92,93,94,95) actions to accomplish any more. That leaves us with the 'turn bolt' or cam-block levers (Sako Finnwolf, Win 88, BLR or Sav 99). The Sako, m88 and m99 lose since they were never made in any length other than short.

Well if you want to talk pushing things, my 405 gets its best accuracy with the 300 gr jacketed bullets when they jump out at 2300-2350. Hogdon's has pressure tested data to 2400, and although I haven't seen the need to try them the woodleigh 400 gr bullet will go to 1900 fps. And not to mention the best BC's of the pointier design of the .411 bullets over the flatnosed varieties required by the tube magazines.

of these calibers, the deadliest one is the one I have with me that day! If you can tell the difference between something shot with a 300gr 405, 444, 0r 45-70, or even 350gr .450 you have a pretty good eye

What did I do with my ABACAS? 2000 years of Chinese can't be wrong. I'm getting rid of my Pentium 4.

Hello All,
Big bore lever action the best. About six months ago I acquired a Browning M71 that had been rebarreled to 50-110. Been wanting a 50-110 for over twenty years! Read the book from Veral Smith, of LBT. He is a man that distains theories and likes field proven data, hard facts. Bottom line big diameter, flat point bullet, proper hardness,@$%@@$& awsome killing power, great penetration at proper distances. Finally have stopped working on a 500gr. maximum load at approximately 1900fps with 2" groups at 100 yds off a bench. Now will begin on a 350gr. load. Not much reloading data for the 50-110 in a modern rifle. What ever big bore caliber you decide on you will find that the terminal end will amaze you when pushed to their upper limits and give you a new vision of a bigger slower bullet compared to a lighter much faster bullet. Like others have said there is 100 years or more of experience here with these old cartridges and anything 100 or 150yds out is hit real hard, second or more shots may be needed as with even the 460 Wheatherby. Recoil is punishing but you save these max loads for hunting and burn a few now and then to keep familiarized with the whole thing. Reduced loads are a lot of fun with out as much recoil and help practice in positions away from a bench.
Good luck

USER name KEV ..Own's a 50-110 Winchester

He get's much diffrent result's with his ..

i supplyed him with the bullet's 525 grain
the 1900 FPS with a 500 grain bullet is off the mark by a long shot.

If i were you i would PM both AL and KEV both own 50-110 winchester's
who ever this person is . is off the mark for the max load.

Or maybe he own's a 1886 Mod made in that year

Got 1900fps for the 525 gr also. but none the less 1900 for the 500gr. Both showed signs of being a max load. But I pour my own 500grs. The load is what it is and is not off the mark

I did state that I was using a Browning M71. Not made in 1886, didn't have'm then

Howdy,

Browning may/will be chambering the latest WSM the 325 in thier BLR. That may suit you or not????

8mmwapiti

Hello Again,

Went to Browning's web site. They are chambering the 325 WSM also the 450 Marlin. You choose! I like the 325 as it will double as a great elk rifle with plenty of long range potential.

8mmwapiti

Have heard there are steel parts available to replace non-steel parts in the Browning BLR. I have also read that a plastic bushing in this rifle can be replaced with a bronze one. Can anyone shed some light on this? I am still considering converting my 7 mag to either a 300 win based wildcat, or preferably to the 416 Taylor. I have recieved mixed opinions from the dozen or so 'smiths I have contacted about the use of the BLR as a dangerous game rifle. Most say no.