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#4399525 - 09/09/10 Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, or BF Skinner?  
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As a spin off from the evolution thread.



I found Skinners theories of psychology the most enlightening. And more closely matching my view of humanity.


My ideal as a conservative:

That each person may reap as he/she has sown.
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#4399550 - 09/09/10 Re: Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, or BF Skinner? [Re: Idaho_Shooter]  
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Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"

Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."





#4399591 - 09/09/10 Re: Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, or BF Skinner? [Re: watch4bear]  
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Doesn't anybody do Maslow anymore?


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#4399629 - 09/09/10 Re: Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, or BF Skinner? [Re: toltecgriz]  
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Jesus Christ and Paul are my favorite explainers of the human condition... my brother is a die-hard Jungian.


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#4399720 - 09/09/10 Re: Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, or BF Skinner? [Re: Brad]  
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I am kind of a fan of the conditioned response.


My ideal as a conservative:

That each person may reap as he/she has sown.
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#4399736 - 09/09/10 Re: Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, or BF Skinner? [Re: Idaho_Shooter]  
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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
I am kind of a fan of the conditioned response.


Whadda ya mean by that?


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#4399758 - 09/09/10 Re: Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, or BF Skinner? [Re: watch4bear]  
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"operant conditioning" ...probably why I hunt cool

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Given a healthy brain:

Human behavior and thought processes are learned.

Proper parenting and teaching rewards desirable behavior and punishes undesirable behavior. Proper parenting will bring about a condition where by the reward process becomes internalized.

Thus the psyche and the conscience are created by the parents.


My ideal as a conservative:

That each person may reap as he/she has sown.
#4399780 - 09/09/10 Re: Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, or BF Skinner? [Re: Idaho_Shooter]  
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Thus the psyche and the conscience are created by the parents.


Who taught the parents?



Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"

Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."





#4399796 - 09/09/10 Re: Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, or BF Skinner? [Re: watch4bear]  
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Originally Posted by watch4bear
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Thus the psyche and the conscience are created by the parents.


Who taught the parents?



DUUUHHHH!


My ideal as a conservative:

That each person may reap as he/she has sown.
Bravo

#4399803 - 09/09/10 Re: Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, or BF Skinner? [Re: Idaho_Shooter]  
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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by watch4bear
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Thus the psyche and the conscience are created by the parents.


Who taught the parents?



DUUUHHHH!


that's funny, don't care who you are................

Charlie

Last edited by chas05; 09/09/10. Reason: still funny

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#4399804 - 09/09/10 Re: Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, or BF Skinner? [Re: Idaho_Shooter]  
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Oh, yeah, silly me, the neandertals. I forget so easily any more,



Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"

Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."





#4399819 - 09/09/10 Re: Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, or BF Skinner? [Re: watch4bear]  
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Originally Posted by watch4bear
Oh, yeah, silly me, the neandertals. I forget so easily any more,


are you really that obtuse?

Charlie


Last edited by chas05; 09/09/10.

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#4399927 - 09/09/10 Re: Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, or BF Skinner? [Re: watch4bear]  
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Originally Posted by watch4bear
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Thus the psyche and the conscience are created by the parents.


Who taught the parents?
Some operant conditioner.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Jung was a results oriented guy . Sigmund was a fraud .

[ Somebody was gonna say it !grin ]


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Grinnin here


My ideal as a conservative:

That each person may reap as he/she has sown.
#4400101 - 09/09/10 Re: Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, or BF Skinner? [Re: Brad]  
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Originally Posted by Brad
Jesus Christ and Paul are my favorite explainers of the human condition... my brother is a die-hard Jungian.

Agreed. For the correct answer, go straight to the top.


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#4400253 - 09/09/10 Re: Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, or BF Skinner? [Re: chas05]  
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Originally Posted by chas05
Originally Posted by watch4bear
Oh, yeah, silly me, the neandertals. I forget so easily any more,


are you really that obtuse?

Charlie




An earlier version then?

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Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"

Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."





#4400257 - 09/09/10 Re: Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, or BF Skinner? [Re: toltecgriz]  
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Originally Posted by toltecgriz
Doesn't anybody do Maslow anymore?
My Cat is named Maslow. The wife was a psych major. Go figure.

She tells me that for the most part Freud, Jung, and Skinner are considered jokes in the psychology world now. I don't remember why, but she explained how modern psychologist do not adhere to the concepts those three proposed.


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#4400329 - 09/10/10 Re: Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, or BF Skinner? [Re: HugAJackass]  
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Originally Posted by HugAJackass
Originally Posted by toltecgriz
Doesn't anybody do Maslow anymore?
My Cat is named Maslow. The wife was a psych major. Go figure.

She tells me that for the most part Freud, Jung, and Skinner are considered jokes in the psychology world now. I don't remember why, but she explained how modern psychologist do not adhere to the concepts those three proposed.

Your wife was obviously paying attention in her classes. The last I heard, Maslow's theory wasn't supported very well by research either. I always used to grit my teeth when some trainer would present Maslow's Hierarchy at the beginning of her class like it was some sort of gospel. Intuitive appeal ain't the same as validity!

Aside from analysts who had paid out a fortune for their own didactic analyses, I never knew many folks who took Freudian theory very seriously. English teachers loved it, or course, for all the symbolism and sexual stuff.

Past tense used because I've been retired for awhile.

Paul

#4400339 - 09/10/10 Re: Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, or BF Skinner? [Re: Idaho_Shooter]  
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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
As a spin off from the evolution thread.



I found Skinners theories of psychology the most enlightening. And more closely matching my view of humanity.


all three of them were poster boys for the disorders they championed.


Sam......

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