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RAPID CITY, SD. The Rev. James A. Forsythe, a Protestant minister in South Dakota, has not registered as a sex offender as required by law. Forsythe, 47, pleaded guilty in 1989 to attempted indecent liberties with a child. A Johnson County district judge said Forsythe was a pedophile and ordered him to have no contact with teen-age boys - a restriction the judge later lifted. SForsythe, who told The Kansas City Star on Friday that he did not know he needed to register in South Dakota, pleaded guilty Dec. 8, 1989, to attempting indecent liberties with a child. Since January 2000, Forsythe has been minister of the Metropolitan Community Church of the Black Hills in Rapid City, S.D. The church is part of a growing denomination that serves predominantly gay and lesbian worshippers. Forsythe said he had remorse for what happened in Kansas, but that he did not pose a threat to teen-agers today. Church officials said that they were aware of Forsythe's past and that there had been no allegations of sexual misconuct against him since he joined the denomination. When he was appointed here, we were told by the district liaison," said Charles White, a lay delegate at the Rapid City church. "We've talked about it, but it's behind him now. He's a wonderful pastor. He made a mistake. It's all done and over." Even so, Forsythe said he had never told the whole congregation, which numbers about 12, of his past. (5/5/2002, AP)
Protestant Minister unregistered as sex offender in South Dakota
Protestant Minister unregistered as sex offender in South Dakota

"Just how widespread is homosexuality among priests and bishops? For obvious reasons, no reliable statistics are available. The percentage is vigorously disputed, of course, but one indication of the scope of the problem is that those who argue for the lowest estimate insist that the number of gays in the clergy is no higher than that of the gay population in society at large-as if this were not on its own showing evidence of a profound crisis. Gay priests themselves-who, though admittedly partisan, admittedly also have unique access to the facts-commonly assure us that they are legion within the priesthood in general and well-represented even among bishops. Obviously, they have an interest in exaggerating their numbers-for both psychological and political reasons. But the Kansas City Star series mentioned above notes that, of 26 novices who entered the Missouri Province of the Jesuit order in 1967 and 1968, only seven were eventually ordained priests. Of these seven, three have (to date) died of AIDS, and a fourth is an openly gay priest now working as an artist in New York. The priest-artist deplored the fact, not that his fellow Jesuits engaged in homosexual relations, but that they did not take "safe-sex" precautions even after the facts about HIV transmission became known. In this case, four of seven priests in a discrete sample are known to have been actively homosexual. What can we extrapolate from this data about the remaining three men, or about the American priesthood in general? Ten years ago the liberal National Catholic Reporter cited this example as typical."

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Have any way you want RVX, I am out of here.

Hawk I can find as many articles arguing the opposite side. The first 3 or 4 on google do just that.

Sorry, T. Couldn't resist.

Boy am I sunk! Retired police officer, and serving as a pastor. No hope for me at all. Somebody taze me.

I asked a question and you posted information that was not an answer to it. I asked specifically about other religions where in state/national/international level leaders had helped out a local level clergy in avoiding fall out over sexual abuse. For the most part, you gave me a list of incidents of localized sexual abuse that didn't involve cover ups by higher ups which I didn't ask for. I don't dispute that sexual abuse occurs in other religions, but a concerted effort to cover up the incidents is somewhat unique to Catholicism.

i have come to look at the law enforcement mob as whores for the governor they work the streets and crimilize the public to put money in the coffers of the state for the system to support the curruption of the politicions. why would a person spend 50 million dollers for a job that pays $150000.00 you dont need to much smarts to realise your a pawn in a very corrupt system and to think you have the respect of the public!!!??? the public fears you. look who your friends are mostly your kind. law enforcement kind seldom socialise outside their family or their fellow policemen. wake up you are not what you would like the public to percieve as. you are not a friend of the working man.

do you know what a shootist is????

The reason cops hang out with other cops is so we don't hear "can you fix a ticket for me", "My ex-wife/husband done this and that", "Can you run my ex-wife/husband new boyfriend/girlfriend" and "why can't someone do something about this". Among a million other things that we don't want to hear about or don't care about when we are not working (or working for that matter).

Also you can never talk about work or tell a story unless your talking with other cops or it takes forever because you have explain every little detail. Try explaining the law/case law to someone that has no idea about it.

Dink

Don't confuse them with facts and logic DINK, it makes for a much funnier read.

I can't think of any other profession that someone in another line of work would generally have any idea about either, but that doesn't tend to prevent people working different jobs from associating with others.

I think you see less of that exclusivity with small town cops. My neighbor is a small town cop, and he's very friendly. He gave my elderly mom his personal cell phone number when she was nervous about staying at my home to watch my dog for me while I was out of town. Told her to call him any time she had a concern. A real prince of a guy.

PS He also told me he'd place any bulk orders of ammo for me through his police discount source.

RVX people that talk about there work generally talk about the people they work with. If you work in a auto factory how much of a conversation can have about putting a screw in a hole every ninety-seconds? I don't know this but I bet surgeons hang out with other docs/surgeons. I would have nothing common with a guy that can sew your guts back together with out killing you.

People are always looking for a way to get out tickets, DWI's and how to get back at there ex-wives/husbands. It gets old fast.

Dink

Most people I hang around with I hang around with due to having similar hobbies. I can't think of too many people that want to leave work at the end of the day to spend every waking minute until their next shift starts rehashing it, although cops and a few other public safety occupational types do seem to do that alot.

My squad does not hang out together off duty. A few of my guys hang out with guys from other agencies but none of us hang out together.

How many cops do you know that hang out together and work together? I know of two but there married to one another so there kinda stuck together.

I am sure alot of guys hang out together occasionally but I don't think its a everyday thing. When I am not working the last thing I want to do is talk about all the dumb asses I deal with everyday. I got ammo to load and rifles to shoot.

Dink

You just told us that cops usually only hang out together and avoid hanging out with non cops so why bring me in to it like it was my story? You even stated that hanging out with a non-cop would be difficult because you wouldn't be able to talk shop since a non-cop couldn't understand it so why is it now that you wouldn't want to talk about all the non-cop dumbasses you deal with everyday when you are off the clock?

I don't know, or care, where you live but you obviously have some issues there. Any of our NH resident posters (Loggah, Firearms44, RJM, LBK, etc.) care to comment? I know most residents here don't fear LEOs, or anybody else. BOOOO!



Wrong!

My best friend is one I've had since college. We went different ways and he does work in my agency now. Other than that, only one of those that I'm close to is a cop. I have met several of my close friends via my work, though.



Some do, some don't. Your generalizations might work better if you actually know something about us. You assume a lot, though.



My eyes are wide open. I am who I am and perception is reality. I'm not going to change who I am for you or anybody else.




Again, you assume a lot. You're obviously one who isn't going to change his mind. I'm the same so we'll probably be doing this a lot in the future. Know in advance that for me it's not personal, it's entertainment.

George

you stop some poor lot that works for a take home pay of $180.00 a week because his tail light is out. the next thing you know your in his trunk under his seats in his glove box his ashtray looking to [bleep] him you cant find anything he protests your invasion of his privacy and you charge him with resisting arrest or any other thing you can drum up. you cost him his pay for the next 6 months destroy his life and you have the balls to say your just doing your job. this is my last participation in this forum but i just want you to know you are not respected as you may think you are not a part of a society trying to make a living and live and let live you destroy innocent lives without conscience. put yourselfe and family in the same situation you just put that poor sote in. i just think someone should have the balls to tell you just how people in general percieve you but fear your repercutions if they oppose you. live with yourself[ that may be tough in later years]

When cops hang out somewhere it is probaly with other cops for the reasons I posted. I do not think cops hang out together all the time talking shop but I am sure a few do.

You mentioned that people that work other jobs hang out together. I was trying to tell why we don't hang out with people that don't do what we do.

Dink

Then why even list that talking shop is why cops avoid hanging out with non-cops if they aren't hanging out talking shop?