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...some of us still "sweep the safety off" when drawing the GLOCK as we would a 1911...just that the safety isn't there...:D...by the way, I do carry between the 1911 type and GLOCK pistol families...closer than some other combinations I have...
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Yep - that's exactly what I find myself doing when I use my wife's Glock - swiping a safety that doesn't exist. I'm actually less concerned with that than the feel of the different grip angles and trigger feels. It still takes concentration for me to shoot a Glock well for those reasons (and that's not necessarily bad) but it's just not as natural as the 1911 for me. As a result I've just stayed with 1911's and similar to keep the manual of arms as constant as possible and to minimize any of these "changeovers".
Thanks to everyone for your thoughts.
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My question is this - who here regularly uses both a 1911 and a Glock? I didn't know anyone could do that. Aren't they on opposite ends of the universe or something?  ![[Linked Image]](http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr342/Armen_020/Glockvs1911.jpg) I'd give that one a 9.5 on the funny meter... Where did you find it?
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I have carried both 1911s and Glocks as duty guns, as well as competed heavily with both. I think that for the vast majority of regular handgun users, that RJM is correct. The typical owner does not handle and use his/her chosen style of handgun enough to develop unconscious competence with it. They would be better off choosing one system and sticking with it.
Personally, I sweep the thumb safety (like many here) whether it is there or not. The thumb safety has never been the issue that a grip safety is for me. I tend to have a very high grip/really choke up on a gun and have more than once had to readjust to depress the grip safety properly. If it were not an issue, I would deactivate the grip safety on my 1911s. But it would likely be an issue, so I simply don't.
I have no problem switching between Glocks and 1911s, but due to career paths, I have likely spent a bit more time with them compared to the average recreational shooter.
I would imagine a typical B class or better IPSC shooter who shoots a couple of different classes, such as limited and limited 10, would be in this boat as well.
That being said, I spent the previous 4 years shooting a G19 very heavily. In the beginning they felt awkward and too small. Now, through using them so heavily, they seem completely natural and my G21 seems awkward. Before, the G21 and a standard 1911 were like extensions of my hand.
It is all a matter of training to the point of unconscious competence.
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i'm gonna assume that just about everyone approves of the handling characteristics of the 1911...
as to the glock... IMO they handle and point like a loaf of bread...
i pick one up, and i look for the peanut butter jar, and a butterknife...
i am familiar with the issue of switching carry weapons... i switched from a 1911 to the p9s with no difficulty... after losing the p9s i again carried the 1911, and it took some concentration and more than a few rounds of re- accustoming...
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I have carried both 1911s and Glocks as duty guns, as well as competed heavily with both. I think that for the vast majority of regular handgun users, that RJM is correct. The typical owner does not handle and use his/her chosen style of handgun enough to develop unconscious competence with it. They would be better off choosing one system and sticking with it.
Personally, I sweep the thumb safety (like many here) whether it is there or not. The thumb safety has never been the issue that a grip safety is for me. I tend to have a very high grip/really choke up on a gun and have more than once had to readjust to depress the grip safety properly. If it were not an issue, I would deactivate the grip safety on my 1911s. But it would likely be an issue, so I simply don't.
I have no problem switching between Glocks and 1911s, but due to career paths, I have likely spent a bit more time with them compared to the average recreational shooter.
I would imagine a typical B class or better IPSC shooter who shoots a couple of different classes, such as limited and limited 10, would be in this boat as well.
That being said, I spent the previous 4 years shooting a G19 very heavily. In the beginning they felt awkward and too small. Now, through using them so heavily, they seem completely natural and my G21 seems awkward. Before, the G21 and a standard 1911 were like extensions of my hand.
It is all a matter of training to the point of unconscious competence.
Mackay, I'm with you on the high grip on 1911's. I've seen pictures of several old Texas Ranger 1911's and many Rangers wound leather cords around the grip safety to keep it depressed. I doubt they do that today! I also totally agree about the training and practice. They ultimately are much more important than the tool. Best, TP
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