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With off brands.......... it's still a crap shoot. TFF! My last Remington rifle, a M700 Mountain in 7mm-08, is one of the most accurate factory rifles I've had the chance to own. Admittedly, I did spend close to $100 not long after I took it out of the box to have the the bolt handle re-attached.....under "warranty", and it has one of the heaviest and worst triggers I've seen on a factory rifle, and I have to be very careful about resizing the fired cases with either of two brands of reloading dies as the chamber is so close to minimums that even factory ammo tends to hang up just a bit sometimes. But it still functions fine for hunting. Trust me when I say I understand, "it's not the rifle." (I can compensate for that! ) Now, get your butt off to St. Louis and put up or shut up. We know you're more than just talk.
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swamptroll, Since every Remington 700 will shoot less than 1" right out of the box,
The Remington 700 is the best selling and most accurtae production rifle in the world. Swamptroll,Now you know you don't believe that.Your just saying what ever come to your head.Your are kinda of funny in a sick way.
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The problem isn't the rifle. The problem was the rifle. I pulled the trigger and it didnt go off, but it went off when i lifted the bolt. My finger was no where near the trigger. How is that not the rifle's fault?
Proverbs 12:27 The lazy do not roast any game, but the diligent feed on the riches of the hunt.
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Hell lets all go down to LA, isnt that where Swampturkey lives? Swamp where do you shoot, name your range! Let's set a date and all show up! I will bring 3 Kimbers and a Weatherby, who else is in! I can be there any weekend you name! I will take a weekend off from deer hunting. Lets say best groups off the bags wins.
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I have a FN PBR XP .308 that I'll put up against his M700s AND it's a CRF!
Selmer "Daddy, can you sometime maybe please go shoot a water buffalo so we can have that for supper? Please? And can I come along? Does it taste like deer?" - my 3-year old daughter
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If the targets are deer asses ya'll will lose.
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I think that will definitly be an intresting shoot. I have a feeling that whatever guns everybody brings will probably shoot pretty good. I can't see anybody bringing anything that won't shoot a lick.
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In reading thru the posts here, I wanted to mention a couple of points. Hammer forging barrels; IIRC, CZ hammer forges their barrels, and the accuracy I get with 3 CZ rifles, along with others who posted targets showing their accuracy, is as good as it gets. My criteria is 3 shots in a 1/2" group at 100 yards, and CZ's nail that every outing. Hart Barrels; I was talking with Karen Hart about a year ago re who they sell barrels to for subsequent rifle builds. One customer was Remington for their Tactical Sniper Rifle builds. Maybe not all of them, but Hart supplies barrels for some builds. My Remington 722's have barrels that shoot as well, or better, than any current mfgr rifle made today. I only have one factory Model 700 with a Rem barrel, and that is a 257 Roberts Mountain rifle. It shoots 3 shots into 1/2" groups at 100 with its best load. In addition, the Rem Model 7 in 223 that I have with factory barrel shoots exactly like the 700 MR in 257, 3 shots in a 1/2" group at 100.
A point of perspective: My FN Model 70 in 7-08 and my two Weatherby Vanguards, a 223, and a 25-06, shoot just as accurately as the Rem's.
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He's right about them being the most accurate rifles, but it ain't the barrels that cause it.
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Hell lets all go down to LA, isnt that where Swampturkey lives? Swamp where do you shoot, name your range! Let's set a date and all show up! I will bring 3 Kimbers and a Weatherby, who else is in! I can be there any weekend you name! I will take a weekend off from deer hunting. Lets say best groups off the bags wins. I think we have to be careful going to swampturkeys range. He either will not show up or his range is going to be shooting 25 yards off the hood of the truck. I say we can go to any range a campfire member has a picture of or any range that has a updated website. Dink
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He's right about them being the most accurate rifles in the world, and the barrels are the reason for that. Thanks!
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He's right about them being the most accurate rifles, but it ain't the barrels that cause it. The original post.
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He's right about them being the most accurate rifles in the world, and the barrels are the reason for that. Thanks!
1st Special Operations Wing 1975-1983 919th Special Operations Wing 1983-1985 1993-1994
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Swampturkey
-another name for a hoodrat or dungeon monkey.......or a women that lays around the neighborhood waiting for sex and is usually on crack.....
yo mama is a swamp turkey.....even I hit it
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Who are you kiddin' you've never been with anyone you weren't related to.
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Seen your bucks older brother today....
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Ok, guys enough we need to get this thread back on topic!
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Can you give me a 'package' price on that ammo?
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Can you give me a 'package' price on that ammo? I just want the carrier.
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Shank you veddy much...
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