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223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) #4544526 10/28/10
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 578 Klamath Falls, OR ACLakey OP Campfire Regular
OP ACLakey Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 578 Klamath Falls, OR	I finally have my 1:9 twist .223AI back together and am looking at working up some loads with 75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings. I have the following powders on hand H335, Varget, H4895, TAC, RL15, RL17 I hear good things about RL15 and the 75gr Amax, just looking for a good starting point. Thanks. https://www.facebook.com/lakeyknives/

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Re: 223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) ACLakey #4549939 10/30/10
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,507 Central Cal. G Grand Campfire Tracker
Grand Campfire Tracker G Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,507 Central Cal.	75g A-Max: Start 25.5g RL15 or Varget and work up.

Re: 223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) ACLakey #4552533 10/31/10
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska	Originally Posted by ACLakey I finally have my 1:9 twist .223AI back together and am looking at working up some loads with 75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings. I have the following powders on hand H335, Varget, H4895, TAC, RL15, RL17 I hear good things about RL15 and the 75gr Amax, just looking for a good starting point. Thanks. With the 75A-Max and assuming nekked. 24grs of '335,in R/P hulls,kissing the 75 A-Max and 400's in the hole...will getcha going in FORMED cases. I've shot every powder you mention in my 223AI's,'335 remains KING.......... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) Big Stick #4575234 11/07/10
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,197 K keith Campfire Tracker
keith Campfire Tracker K Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,197	H335 gives long barrel life also!

Re: 223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) keith #4575476 11/07/10
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 578 Klamath Falls, OR ACLakey OP Campfire Regular
OP ACLakey Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 578 Klamath Falls, OR	Here are the results of the first round of loads. I did not have any pressure signs with any of these and will do a little adjusting before next time. Temp 38-43 rain light to heavy It seemed like Varget was the better powder today but I have more work to do. https://www.facebook.com/lakeyknives/

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Re: 223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) ACLakey #4575491 11/07/10
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	It seems to like varget hot.. the others...not so much... Lots-o-promise there Ingwe "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: 223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) ingwe #4607578 11/18/10
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska	Varget is no blessing. Hint................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) Big Stick #4618293 11/21/10
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 578 Klamath Falls, OR ACLakey OP Campfire Regular
OP ACLakey Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 578 Klamath Falls, OR	Well, I made it back to the range today and despite the cold and heavy snow I am pleased with the results. It seems I found my load. The crono in the snow was a no go so I will have to get some more data next trip. https://www.facebook.com/lakeyknives/

Re: 223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) ACLakey #4622188 11/22/10
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska	3050fps,is my 21" cold weather minimum. But in fairness,I've shot 'em all.................(grin) Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) Big Stick #4622210 11/22/10
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ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by Big Stick Varget is no blessing. Hint................ You're just a contrarian.... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

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Re: 223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) ingwe #4622237 11/22/10
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska	I wish Varget were GREAT,as it costs less than alotta stuff that works far better...but that ain't how it goes. In fairness,here's a recovered 233AI/'335 fueled/3400fps launched 62TSX,fished from a very dead Buck at the 200yd line,via Montucky. Hint................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) Big Stick #4622259 11/22/10
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	I havent used enough varget to fill a thimble...just fuggin with 'ya...tried some in a deuce, OK but unremarkable.. you been gone so I dont know if you saw I actually got a 53 grainer back, from a Whitetail doe, 200 yds. .223 AI full of IMR 4895 @ 3401 "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: 223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) ingwe #4622273 11/22/10
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska	I'd take Dupont's '4895 as a "stand by",over Varget...though it don't meter as well. I like my 53X's at 3550fps+ in a 21" 223AI and '335 of course is that fuel................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) Big Stick #4622288 11/22/10
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ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Mines a 22 incher and as stated, Im getting 3401 with the 53s and 4895... Have not tried 335.....might hafta pilfer some..... Been trying to do the non-loony thing and limit my number of powders..I suck at it, so I might as well pony up on some 335... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: 223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) ingwe #4622300 11/22/10
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska	I hear good things about '335 in the 223AI. Hint................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) Big Stick #4622325 11/22/10
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Tell me this...Ive heard things..Difference between 335, 322 and Win 748? Mine doesnt like 748... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: 223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) ingwe #4622355 11/22/10
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska	I seriously wonder how [bleep] many times I gotta cite '335 excellence,in order for it to "stick"? Plum amazin'................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) Big Stick #4622379 11/22/10
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Thanks for that insightful input.... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: 223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) ingwe #4622433 11/22/10
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,501 Paradise,Alaska	I'll repeat it: "I seriously wonder how [bleep] many times I gotta cite '335 excellence,in order for it to "stick"? Plum amazin'..................." Mebbe,it'll stick?!!?.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 223AI loads (75gr Amax and 65gr Gamekings) Big Stick #4622802 11/23/10
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Are you sure about this 335...? You seem to be non-committal.... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

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