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I think my first choice would be a 6.5br but a 7br, 6.5tcu, 7tcu, 6.5 Grendel, 6x47, 6.5x47, 6.5 Creedmore, 6xc would all be on my short list.
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Dang it, I'm thinking 99 savage in the excellent old 300 savage. Maybe i'm just feeling a little nostalgic right now, but there it is.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Got a 2.5X Leupy HD inbound for my Frontier .358. All my rifles are short range because of where I usually hunt...
�When in doubt, I whip it out.� Uncle Ted ![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/elrata/imagejpg1_zps585f4bbf.jpg)
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Ten Sleep, good point on twists.
Cub, sounds like you have it backwards, gonna 'feed the deer 200s' LOL.
TxRick, I like the handy Marlin 357 myself, Lil Gun/158s/2000-2050mv is all I need to 150 yds. Stretching out to 200 yds or so, I could use a better trajectory for shot placement. No doubt, a 44 is highly under-rated deer thumper, as is the 357 - In a rifle. Ashame there are not more '41 cal' options.
Having successfully used a 6BR and 243, I personally would not consider the 250 as minimum, but conditions, bullet choice and placement all affect what is needed.
Another option for a handloader, use a 7.62x39 i.e. CZ carbine, loaded w/good 125-130gr bullets, it'll handle deer fine to 200. Lots of cheap plinking/practice ammo avail.
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I use a Remington M7MS or FS in 308 for close & short. The picture has a 257 Roberts custom on a LA m700 action with a 24" barrel. The middle is a 20" barrel MS and the bottom a 18.5" barrel. For me the the 20" MS is much easier than the 18.5" barrel off hand. I have never shot a black tail deer but hunted 1 complete year with a 250 Savage with 120 gr Speer hot cores and killed several does & pigs without a problem. Since you only have to shoot a deer once, I don't see 308 recoil as that bad. ![[Linked Image]](http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr299/tomgahunter/PA060343-2.jpg)
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I have shot whitetails and cougars with both the BLR 358 and M 94 30-30 topped wih 2 1/2 Leupolds...
"To pick a rifle and bullet for use on game by muzzle energy alone is, at best, foolish...and can be dangerous to your own health..." Bill Steigers, April 23, 1980
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Maybe I misunderstood the idea of "short-range" because most of the rifles being considered seem to be medium range (as in out to 300 yards or so).
I do love the .250-3000 but I prefer it in a Savage 99. The .308 and .358 are other favorites in the Savage for this use as is the old reliable .300 Savage. If you prefer a bolt action rifle I'd go with a Mannlicher carbine in something like the 7x57mm or .308......Nothing wrong with the .250-3000 if you like it in such a rifle but I just don't buy into the idea of using the least rifle possible to do a job.
For me, the original post about "short-range" (100 yards normal with possibility of an occational 200 yard shot) just cries out for a traditional lever gun in something like the .35 Remington or .45-70.
I'd even go so far as to pick my own favorite "short-range" rifle, the Ruger 44 Carbine. It's pushing the .44 magnum a might to take 200 yard shots, but at 150 yards or less it's almost perfect. Where I hunt with this carbine, a 150 yard shot is almost unheard of.....more likely it will be at under 50 yards. Do the same with a 77/44 and 300 grain paper patch. Runs ~1,600 fps out the snout and MOA'ish with a red dot. This one is plastic and stainless and gets the call during inclement weather, or swamp use. I imagine it would work fine out to 200 yards but doubt I'll find out in this life. I'm also a big fan of a receiver sighted Model 94 Trapper which has put one great big pile of meat in the cooler over the last 26 years. Any of 'em will work if you know the rifle and your limitations with same. I avoid high magnification scopes in general but particularly for the ranges suggested by the OP. Steel K2.5s rock! That's just me, YMMV.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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