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This guy needs to be shot and tossed into a dumpster.

Charlie has hired lawyers for his defense in the ethics mess, and is paying them with Leadership PAC money. Totally illegal.

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New York Rep. Charles Rangel, whose ethics trial starts Monday, appears to have improperly used political-action committee money to pay for his defense, The New York Post reported Sunday.

Rangel tapped his National Leadership PAC for $293,000 to pay his main legal-defense team this year. He took another $100,000 from the PAC in 2009 to pay lawyer Lanny Davis. Two legal experts told The Post such spending is against House rules. "It's a breach of congressional ethics," one campaign-finance lawyer said.

Washington, D.C., political lawyer Cleta Mitchell said there is "no authority for a member to use leadership PAC funds as a slush fund to pay for personal or official expenses." Leadership PACs are typically used by politicians to donate money to other candidates.

But Rangel seems to have run afoul of House ethics rules. Lawmakers are generally allowed to use campaign cash to pay their lawyers, but this is limited to money in their personal campaign committee and they must ask permission first, the campaign-finance lawyer said. "The only campaign funds that a member may use to pay for congressional expenses are funds of his or her principal campaign committee -- not the funds of a leadership PAC or a multicandidate committee," according to the House Ethics Manual.

Legal fees tied to a campaign, election or performance of official duties are considered congressional expenses. "Accepting money or payment for legal expenses from any other source, including a PAC, would be a gift and is barred by the House rules," the lawyer said. The Ethics Committee had no comment.

Rangel's office refused to comment on the PAC money. On top of the $393,000 in PAC funds, records show Rangel yanked $1.4 million from his campaign coffers in 2009 and 2010 to pay the firm Zuckerman Spaeder, his main legal-defense team, and $100,000 in 2009 to pay Davis' firm.

He also spent $147,577 for Washington, D.C., lawyer John Kern and $174,303 for Watkins, Meegan, Drury & Co., a firm that offers forensic accounting and legal services.

An eight-member ethics subcommittee of four Democrats and four Republicans will convene at 9 a.m. to hear the 13 charges. They include failure to disclose and pay taxes on his vacation home in the Dominican Republic; his use of a rent-regulated Harlem apartment as a campaign office; and using congressional stationery to raise money for the Rangel Center at City College.


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I just heard on KTALK that he walked out of the hearing; claiming he 'didn't have the money to pay for attorneys'..

What a crock of bull-Pelosi...

They oughta call the chamber guards to haul his sorry azz right back into the hearing room and chain him to the damn desk.. mad


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and at the end of the day he remain in Congress and CBC. Bet he'll vote for Nancy to remain minority leader too.

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Rangel will not survive this. His walking out of the hearing will be another devastating blow, especially considering he used near a half a million dollars of illegal funds to pay previous attorneys.

He's toast!


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more's the pity that your guess is a pipe dream. Until the GOP takes over the committee, he has a free ride.
Pelosi will make SURE that charges are dropped, or he just gets a wrist pat, and she will CLOSE the issue.


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We'll see,Sam.


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Originally Posted by isaac
Rangel will not survive this. His walking out of the hearing will be another devastating blow, especially considering he used near a half a million dollars of illegal funds to pay previous attorneys.

He's toast!


Let's hope so, Bob.


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Charlie is a democrat for Chris' sakes. He will walk just like all democrats do when democrats run the show. It does make for nice television. Too bad no one other than FOX is paying any attention. kwg

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I actually hope he survives. It will just be more fuel for 2012.


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This Congress and administration are creating what I will in the future call the Congressional/Administration Defense Of "if they don't get prosecuted,you're estopped/prevented from citizen prosecution" See what a jury of 12 thinks of it. I already know what most of you sane,thinking folks think of it.


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Originally Posted by isaac
Rangel will not survive this. His walking out of the hearing will be another devastating blow, especially considering he used near a half a million dollars of illegal funds to pay previous attorneys.

He's toast!


'Tis an act of desperation. If you don't have the facts or the law all you're left with is throwing as much dust in the air as possible.


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Originally Posted by isaac
This Congress and administration are creating what I will in the future call the Congressional/Administration Defense Of "if they don't get prosecuted,you're estopped/prevented from citizen prosecution" See what a jury of 12 thinks of it. I already know what most of you sane,thinking folks think of it.


I see your point Bob. Dang, so do you think that sort of estopple would pass Constitutional scrutiny?


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Sure, it's just a creative version of nullification. Well, maybe not so creative but if Geithner or Rangel aren't fully prosecuted, why should my client be prosecuted? Sam, I think some jurors would buy it enough to at least get you a hung jury and a consequent mistrial.

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I HOPE HE GOES DOWN LIKE A TURD IN A CHURN,HE'S a self righteous SOB for SURE.

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Originally Posted by isaac
Rangel will not survive this. His walking out of the hearing will be another devastating blow, especially considering he used near a half a million dollars of illegal funds to pay previous attorneys.

He's toast!
'Nother football pick? laugh

You have NO idea how I hope you're right on this.. But more likely he'll get a little slappy-poo on the wrist and he'll be back in business as usual..


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As this "trial" will be controlled by Democratic progressive fascists I doubt that he will be convicted. They gave Clinton a pass on perjury and obstruction of justice. Rangel will get a free pass.

Can the Republicans retry him when they take over control of Congress? They should because this trial is sure to be a scam.



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Rangel's only chance is to get this resolved before the new congress is sworn. Even that is low probability.


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Problem with something drastic like expulsion is that Chuck has been around long enough to know where ALL the bodies are buried. Can't see how he can escape conviction and some sanction though. I kinda like Chuck, personable enough on TV, but wouldn't trust him with a cold dog turd as a certain Army drill sergeant was wont to say.


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