Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Did you know we allow "Water Stations" for illegals

Waterboy,
You are nothing more than a traitor to our country & people, aiding the illegal invasion of our country.

You should be arrested!

Guess that makes every long time desert dweller hunter and Rancher in southern Az a traitor. As we've all given water to illegals.

Whatever, there is a place for our anger and energy, vandalizing water in the desert isn't it.

Kent

water in the desert is so unnatural, unless one is wanting it to be there, at great expense and effort.

humanitarian service to the travelers, versus private landowners rights, govermental wishy-washy direction, and illegal aliens crossing over into America illegally. what a strange web we air-breathing humans weave.

private land is sacrosanct, at the cost of death, right? governmental land? well, who knows for sure?? but, if we tax-payers are covering the costs of governmental service, we should have a say-so, shouldn't we??

water, cool clean water, it's to die for, for sure. but, leaving polluted water out in plastic containers for the occasional traveler, why, that's inhumane isn't it? so many diseases are water-borne.

what if terriorists from anywhere on the globe visited the watering holes, and "salted" them with whatever virile biologic compound economically availble, to be spread to the mega-cities by lowly migrants just looking for work, a handout, and some federal assistance, at taxpayers expense??

i feel for the migrants (aka illegal aliens), but we're setting ourselves up for an attack by terrorists, flying under the radar, as they continue to encourage illegals to cross the southern borderlines.

does National Security mean nothing, or is it obsolete in the post-modern era??

7 layers of foil... may be a record.

Dude, it's water...

Kent

Where ( general region ) do you LIVE, man, if you don't mind my asking ?

GTC

General Jack Ripper LIVES !

GTC

seriously, if the intruders knows there's no potable water available for 3 to 9 days, why would they risk their lives to go there? well, i mean to traverse through there?

if we are indeed our Brothers Keeper, shouldn't we advise them not to go there, at the risk of their life??

seriously, free water is spiritual, but it's quite in short supply out west, in the desert, isn't it??

Well, Gus, it's not like visiting Silver Dollar City or Worlds of Fun and you get a cute little pocket map with all the interesting stops alnog the way...

How many times we got to say it. If water gets out there, rain, rancher, trick tank, apron catchment, water spicket from a house, water station from a charity group.

Don't F with it or you will get your ass handed.

Kent

You sound useful.
You ain't skeert of snakes and lizards and other creepy crawlies, are ya? Several species in the area I'd add to the collection. And you won't even have to water them, just bag, box and ship.

ps

Hope you don't mind the hot ones.

i've had mine handed so many times that i've become quite de-sensitized to the very noun.

water in the desert, does it come from natural rainfall, or is it trucked in, unnaturally?

without water, is there life??

Since you really could care less on a real answer about a desert and how varied it is, I'm not wasting my breath. Just know old desert law, enemies will band together to take vengeance on water defilers.

Kent

[quote=WaterStationPrez]I might be able to shed some light on this subject. I am the president of Water Station, a non-profit group that establishes and maintains emergency water sites in California.

What we do not do is guide or help anyone in crossing the border, provide assistance in finding work, shelter or hide anyone who has crossed the border. What we do is leave water along some of the desert trails that people use.

We have permits from the BLM and California State Parks, as well as other agencies and landowners with jurisdiction, and we maintain an excellent working relationship with the U.S. Border Patrol. We just completed our eleventh year working in San Diego & Imperial Counties.

It amuses me when I see the hypocrisy of people who claim to believe in Conservative principles, but who advocate vandalizing our stations. One of the main tenets of Conservatism is a respect for private property and yet here they are advocating the destruction of our private property.

If you have any questions (even one you might think are difficult), I'd be happy to answer them.

Ben
well ben, I am about as conservative as you can get, and I am a life long resident of arizona, over 60 years now, and I DON"T like or condone illegal immigration. I have to admit when i first saw those flags going up and the water stations i had mixed feelings. Probably still do on some level.
On the other hand, i have a LOT of sympathy for many of those trying to get here, hard not to when your grandfather tells you he left croatia in 1906 for this country because of starvation. Yeah i know, he did it through ellis island, but then croatia isn't right next door.
I have also experienced and seen the effects of lack of water in the desert, and regardless of motivation and cause of people being in that situation, one would have to be pretty hard hearted or not familar with it to understand the humanitarian work you do. And i don't actually have a problem with it.
I might add one must look at the conditions from where they are leaving to understand motivation and the risks they take.

We're still finding bits and mummified pieces of folks dating from the mid '90s.

Coyotes would get em' out and across,...and LEAVE em'.

Good Post, Ron,....and thanks

GTC

Folks are still willing to face death to get into the USA.
Stopping them begins at the border.
Water in the desert is life saving charity.

let's shift the argument a click or two to the right, ok?

shut off the unnatural flow of water, if sold at less than market prices?

is that a fair start? then, let's deal with particulars, ok?

noone benefits from the natural flow of water except the direct beneficiaries?

water, what's it good for? anyone know?

Drank the Bong Water again,....

the fair market price for water? what is it? anybody know for sure?

subsidies, who does it help, and who does it hurt? i mean, there's only X amount of rainfall and snowfall per year.

how best should it be distributed?

i love Kali lettuce shipped cross country, water and all, for a #1.00 a head.

but, if push comes to shove, shouldn't water be distributed according to natural flows??

i dunno, maybe you do?

Some of you guys bitch about the border problem 24/7.

Then someone bitches about the fact that water is put out for illegals and ya'll bitch about him bitching.

Make up yer [bleep] minds, you don't make the rules or form the opinions for the rest of us just because you choose to live in that chithole.

I don't see anything wrong with providing water, but I can't stand how everytime somebody voices an opinion on the border issue, our local experts parachute in and attempt correct everybody's thinking.

If it hasn't dawned on you yet, you will need the rest of the country to help solve this problem. So you might want to be a little more understanding of folks opinions or you experts may be left up to your azz in illegals.

JM