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That's one fine 22 aalf !
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aalf - I dig the rifle!
What are you using for dies?
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This method that Rocky Gibbs developed is a wildcatting technique that hasn't received the recognition it deserves.
How true. I've been shooting 22 and 6 Dashers for the last several years. Same program, neck up, neck down for snug fit on the false shoulder, and shoot. Pretty simple really.
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So what are the velocity gains over a 223AI say with a 69-75 gr bullet? Case capacity is about a grain over the 223AI and around a 100 FPS gain.
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Fireforming is a bitch. Of course the ability to pickup 22-204 ammo anywhere is a plus??(!!?>?!
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Hey Al, how ya been? This is the rifle you purchased a lifetime supply of food from Midway for huh?
Death is coming for the coyotes! Nice rifle Al.
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Very Nice. I'm thinking of making my 223AI into a 22/204. The bit of taper and hair less shoulder angle I'm thinking it would be a easier round to get to feed well and the hair more capacity icing on the cake.
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I'm thinking of making my 223AI into a 22/204. The bit of taper and hair less shoulder angle I'm thinking it would be a easier round to get to feed well and the hair more capacity icing on the cake. Hate to rain on your parade, but it ain't gonna work unless you cut off part/all of the threads and set the chamber back to clean up the fatter shoulder/body juncture of the AI. I'd work on the feeding issue first..... SH's idea on the 222RM has the same issues, but has it's advantages with it's long neck, if you prone to using the full spectrum of bullet weights.
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Options are open. It is going to be a rebarrel job, not rechamber, as I want to change the twist from 1 in 14 to 1 in 8 anyway. If I size down the shoulder of my 223AI just .005 it feeds fine. Having it done is a ways off yet but the 22-204 has garnered my attention.
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I'm thinking of making my 223AI into a 22/204. The bit of taper and hair less shoulder angle I'm thinking it would be a easier round to get to feed well and the hair more capacity icing on the cake. Hate to rain on your parade, but it ain't gonna work unless you cut off part/all of the threads and set the chamber back to clean up the fatter shoulder/body juncture of the AI. I'd work on the feeding issue first..... Yeah, I know.
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Seen your pics and the 6mm./233 thought has already been thrown in my mental blender. The more I think about it, the more sense it makes. Nice shooting by the way.
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Dandy buck.
I ran almost 7 thousand rounds of 6x47 Imp (6x222RM) with a 45 degree shoulder through a Shilen on prairie dogs before it finally puked. Never did try the feeding, as it was only used as a single shot. Pretty sure it wouldn't feed for [bleep] though.....
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I don't think there is a small cartridge I don't like. I might get goofy one of these days and do a 25 caliber on a 223/204/222RM case.
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On the feeding subject,
This gun has another tube in 223 in an 8 twist Rock that I shortened the mag block for the 75 A-Maxes. With the 22-204, my reamer has .060" freebore, which gave me a loaded length of 2.660" hard in the lands. Rather than making another shorter block to accommodate the longer length, I just run a regular 308 machined follower, narrowed up a bit for clearance in the full length 223 mag box without a block. I had to tweak the left side of the box to stop the second to last round from popping out when trying to chamber. All's good now.
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Nice pic, thanks.
So what are the velocity gains over a 223AI say with a 69-75 gr bullet?
thanks.... Should easily be the same as a 223AI over a standard 223, apples to apples pressure wise.
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What powders work best in it? So far I tried 335, 380, 414, and AA-2230-C with the 75 A-Max. 2230-C's in the lead.....
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Very cool Al! That'll thump coyotes for sure.
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Seen your pics and the 6mm./233 thought has already been thrown in my mental blender. The more I think about it, the more sense it makes. Nice shooting by the way. All these critters were 6mm/.223 or 6x45'd or whatever you want to call it. Deer show exits.
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