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Redneck has got me to thinking of survival scenarios. Here's the four that I've thought about off and on.
1. The caveman survival scenario. This scenario envisions the total break down of all civilization due to some super catastrophic event such as a giant asteroid hitting earth or total nuclear winter. Personally, I don't think I would ever survive such an event so I haven't given this scenario much thought.
2. The hermit mountain man survival scenario. This scenario envisions a person or family living off the government grid and living a life style similar to a 18th or early 19th century. I gave this scenario some serious consideration when I was a real young adult but I soon realized that this was a romantic notion that didn't live up to the romance. I did look into the type of weapons for this scenario that would work. Muzzle loading flintlocks and long bows.
3. The short term catastrophic event scenario. This scenario envisions a temporary event such as a giant snow storm, earthquake, hurricane, tornado, etc. The survivalist here is primarily concerned with self-defense against looters and other two-legged predators. Here semi-autos would be best or a pump shotgun.
4. The Great Depression event scenario. This scenario envisions a partial collapse of the national government due to bankruptcy. It is assumed that if one is truly a survivalist and worried about this scenario that one is living in a rural area with some land put aside along with other items for survival. Here a semi-auto rifle and hand gun for self-defense against looters and other two-legged predators and a center fired rifle and .22lr rifle for putting food on the table.
I am often asked or at least was in the past when I was younger what types of weapons to buy for survival. My answer was also determine the survival scenario you think most likely to happen and than choose the best weapons for that survival scenario.
Do you guys have any other survival scenarios to share and the types of weapons that might work? I've been thinking about a "zombie take over the world scenario." How would I harden my house to repel the zombies? What would I need in terms of weapons and ammo? Would food be available or should I stock up on canned goods and gasonline?
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Survival scenarios! Now there is a subject for discussion. I'll be brief though. Most of the 'preppers' I know, are not disaster specific. Instead, they live their lives prudently, frugally, and with an eye to keeping one step ahead of life. This means maintaining your health and body, keeping adequate supplies of food, water, gear, fuel............. in short having enough of the basics of life to sustain life. Weapons probably get discussed more than food preps, or your financial preps, but heck, guns are fun. I believe that my modest preparations in that regard are sound, well thought out, and more than sufficient. Here is one little grouping that I was considering the other day. My Quality Hardware USGI .30 Carbine, my Springfield 1911-A1, and my KBAR. ![[Linked Image]](http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/Knocky/Knocky%202010/BuggingOut2.jpg)
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I have a friend who was a green beret and taught winter survival to special forces in the wild woods of Maine. He said the soldiers would come and go, while he just stayed out there. He could have had all the comforts of home, but would only indulge in one. A cast iron frying pan! He said " to heck with the weight, I would take that pan with me everywhere." He's a really nice guy. Partially mad, mind you, but very nice. He's got a German Mauser and a long bow he hunts with. He's 70 plus and still gets his deer every year.
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George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you!
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I don't worry about it. The government will take care of me. That's what they are there for.  Yep, we can all sit on our roofs a cry and wail if Obama doesn't rescue us immediately. He'll be on it day one!
I'm better when I move.
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Redneck has got me to thinking of survival scenarios. Here's the four that I've thought about off and on.
3. The short term catastrophic event scenario. This scenario envisions a temporary event such as a giant snow storm, earthquake, hurricane, tornado, etc. The survivalist here is primarily concerned with self-defense against looters and other two-legged predators. Here semi-autos would be best or a pump shotgun.
I'll take number 3 for 200, Alex. I bet you'll get that 200, too!
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While we're on the subject, it appears that, when things sort out after a #3, people end up going to jail for things they did during it. So, don't lose sight of the fact that order will be returned someday, and some people may be asking questions.
"Don't believe everything you see on the Internet" - Abraham Lincoln
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as some former NOPD members found out last week.
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"Don't believe everything you see on the Internet" - Abraham Lincoln
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and Africk is really going to drop the hammer on them at sentencing.
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"Guns we have but they do not play that big a role in our plans,"
Yup, I'm of the same mind set....haven't heard a DAMNED thing about Non-Hybrid seed here,.....either
However,.......
"Doesn't matter, I will just take your schitt. Bomb shelter or not, your schitt will become my schitt... laugh"
....if you are indeed serious,....I'll be adding YOUR arm and ammo to my more then sufficient store of same.
Ron's call out, "the other thing is i believe it would be good above all else to have a group of like minded people of good heart to band together.
A wolf by himself is one thing, but a pack is another.
I have also encouraged sharing and helping one another."
....all I can say is Semper DesertRatUS !
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question one, is that worth surviving in? Life is not worth living if it must be done in misery. If I knew a nuclear exchange ws coming, I'd stand outside to give a good look
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.haven't heard a DAMNED thing about Non-Hybrid seed here,.....either Should have mentioned it but it slipped my mind, daughter grows a bunch of greens and veggies and we have some generic citrus trees and even grow old fashioned seeded watermelons & Strawberries.
George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you!
Old cat turd!
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Survival scenarios! Now there is a subject for discussion. I'll be brief though. Most of the 'preppers' I know, are not disaster specific. Instead, they live their lives prudently, frugally, and with an eye to keeping one step ahead of life. This means maintaining your health and body, keeping adequate supplies of food, water, gear, fuel............. in short having enough of the basics of life to sustain life. Weapons probably get discussed more than food preps, or your financial preps, but heck, guns are fun. I believe that my modest preparations in that regard are sound, well thought out, and more than sufficient. Here is one little grouping that I was considering the other day. My Quality Hardware USGI .30 Carbine, my Springfield 1911-A1, and my KBAR. Classic combo. Love it.
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You forgot zombies. Gotta have a good zombie gun! And a carnivorous, reptilian alien rifle...
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You would have to band together with good neighbors to survive. One well armed and fed family won't be able to hold off a crowd of starving people. At least not for more than a few occasions.
Crossfire, get yourself plenty of dry beans. None of them are hybrids. For a small investment, say $100 dollars, you could have ten years worth of the latest disease resistant hybrid seeds. That would be many more times useful than a bunch of old heirloom varieties that are susceptible to diseases and low in yield.
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Survival scenarios! Now there is a subject for discussion. I'll be brief though. Most of the 'preppers' I know, are not disaster specific. Instead, they live their lives prudently, frugally, and with an eye to keeping one step ahead of life. This means maintaining your health and body, keeping adequate supplies of food, water, gear, fuel............. in short having enough of the basics of life to sustain life. Weapons probably get discussed more than food preps, or your financial preps, but heck, guns are fun. I believe that my modest preparations in that regard are sound, well thought out, and more than sufficient. Here is one little grouping that I was considering the other day. My Quality Hardware USGI .30 Carbine, my Springfield 1911-A1, and my KBAR. My kind of guy. Your weapon choice would be my way of thinking as well especially for numbers 3 and 4.
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question one, is that worth surviving in? Life is not worth living if it must be done in misery. If I knew a nuclear exchange ws coming, I'd stand outside to give a good look For number 1 that's the way I look at it to.
Don't vote knothead, it only encourages them. Anonymous
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." Anonymous
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most survival situations will come down to coming in at 4:00 a.m. with lipstick on your collar and you smelling like perfume.
if you can survive that, what's a little nuclear fallout?
I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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If you don't think you'll survive you're probably right.
Tools, seeds, guns, short ropes and tall horses....grim Christmas but maybe better days ahead. Don't fergit the whiskey for medicinal purposes.
I am..........disturbed.
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