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Freeme I like the 1911. There is nothing wrong with them. I just think the glock is a better carry/duty gun for a variety of reasons. I do believe that a glock will run dirty where a 1911 might or it might not. I have owned and shot a alot of pistol/revovlers and have come to a opinion of what I want in a carry gun.

I had two great 1911's but when something went bump in the night they were not the first thing I grabbed for.

Dink

I didn't. I said I picked the G19 over others. The Glock grip angle apparently turns off Clint Smith too. Me personally, I love 1911s and want get another one but I've experienced too many malfunctions with them to trust them as my primary self-defense arm.

Expat

There really isn't "a 1911." There are dozens upon dozens of them, and probably thousands. There isn't a 1911 company out there who's the only company making them. You therefore have to take each one and judge it individually. If you have one that works, however, it works. If you don't, then it needs adjustment till it does.

I have 2 full size 1911s and one small Kimber Ultra Carry and all function perfectly and a full sized 1911 is what I have with me at all times. They all run perfectly, I pull the trigger and I hear a bang every time. If a 1911 has a feeding issue they are not difficult to correct so as to not have that problem again ever IME
A quality 1911 platform has a track record of excellence

I read alot of Clint Smith before he became "famous". If there was ever a 1911 man he was it. Well until XD and Smith & wesson came across with some money. Now it would not suprise me to see him shooting a Hi-Point if they can come up with the money.

Dink

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That's my post that just happened to be after yours.
I had to find your post to see what you were talking about.
Still don't understand. Seemed like you were talking about one shooter ond two brands.
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Let me know where I refered to you.
May take a while..........I'll wait.........

Glock has a proven track record,and they have been put through some of the most intense torture testing and round totals I am aware of.Hard to talk down a gun that has such a outstanding track record.I would definitely carry a glock before a 1911.

Just so I'm clear, which Glock are we talking about? Generation 1, 2, 3, or 4? Pre or post the 'Six Part Upgrade? Which extractor? Which breech face?

You couldn't run fast enough to give me a Glock

Like trying to take aim with a brick.

Here's my personal experiences.

I started out with a G23. It was great, but for some dumb reason I sold it.

Bought a Kahr. It wouldn't feed a whole mag without malfunctioning. They told me it was the "break in period" and it was because it had "such tight tolerances." Ok. I kept shooting it. It kept jamming. I did a little work on it and ended up sending it back. After that it was about 90%.

I then got a Kahr PM9. Same story. Enough with the Kahrs.

I tried several others. I carried a Kimber for a while, and had loads of problems with it, too. Send it back, they say. Forget it. Sold it.

Repeat that cycle for about 6 different handguns. In the middle there I picked up a G29. Never had to worry about break in. Didn't have to worry about anything. It just worked.

I just grabbed a G19. Same boring story. It just works. Every time.

I don't care how they look, those dang glocks go bang when I pull the trigger. I don't have to worry about what I'm feeding it or how I treat it. I learned that through a lot of rounds and some sad experience.

I'm back where I started.

You make them sound almost as good as a quality 1911

How much does a quality 1911 cost?

Depends.

I picked up my Sprienfield used for 500 dollars and it has yet to jam and I have shot it a thousand of more times and it is extremely reliable

Well, we come full circle right back to the fact that every maker makes some good ones and some bad ones. I have a S&W M1911PD that has been flawless out of the box for the past 7 years, I think it was around $1,100 (I paid much less, but that�s not available to everyone) new because mine is the one that comes with CTC laser grips which really drives up the cost. I�ve shot many S&W 1911�s and I�ve yet to have a failure of any kind with any of them. I�ve also had great experiences with Kimber and Para Ordnance.

My local police department issues Springfield �Loaded� Stainless 1911�s and they�re absolutely loving them. The rangemaster has informed me he has yet to encounter a malfunction at the range, and they have been carrying their Springfield�s for over 3 years now. I gave some private instruction to a local officer and got to lay my little grubbies on their issue gun and it�s not how I would set up a 1911, but it�s hard to argue with the results. The woman I was instructing was definitively told that her gun would never malfunction, so I induced a malfunction to show her that any pistol will malfunction under the right circumstances.

My boss at my day job paid $440.00 for his RIA which has yet to produce a single hiccup in over 500 rounds for him; so you don�t necessarily have to spend a fortune.

There are a lot of great 1911�s out there. I hear all this talk of bad 1911�s on the internet, but I don�t see them when I�m out shooting. Yeah, you see malfunctioning 1911�s at pistol matches, because people are constantly experimenting with them, changing springs and what not. But I�ve seen just as many problems with Glocks at those matches, and for pretty much the same reasons, people are changing springs, triggers and whatnot.

Also consider that at shooting ranges, and pistol matches, a lot of shooters are using reloaded ammunition. Reloading for a semi-auto takes someone who knows what the heck they�re doing, so many pistol match malfunctions in most any pistol design can often be attributed to bad ammunition also.

So head to a pistol match armed with the knowledge that people there are shooting reloaded ammunition in guns that could be considered �experimental� because of the level of questionable customization and one shouldn�t be surprised to see guns failing under such conditions.

Give me factory ammunition, and I�ll put my S&W M1911PD up against a Glock any day of the week�My S&W may win, the Glock may win, either way, I don�t consider one necessarily �better� than the other.

If you want to talk about the design itself (excluding manufacture); then it�s clear the M1911 has an unbeatable service record that the Glock won�t approach for at least another 50-60 years.

That's been my experience with my S&W 1911 scandium commander as well. My only complaint is that it, like most lightweight commanders in my experience, occasionally spits spent brass right into my face. That's another reason I'm such a fan of the all steel 1911s, with which I've never had brass shot into my face.

Interesting that the two of the most commonly used firearms are the two most controversial, the AR and the Glock.

I've carried S&W, Beretta, Sig and Glock while a police officer. I prefer and feel armed with a Glock, some other handguns not so much.

Strange there are never any controversies on shotguns other than why some very good ones have been discontinued.

When you click on reply to a post, it normally means you are replying to "that" post. It helps people sort out who the remarks are directed at. I know, I ended a sentence with a preposition and it's improper.

Dan

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