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My only complaint is that it, like most lightweight commanders in my experience, occasionally spits spent brass right into my face.

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There really isn't "a 1911." There are dozens upon dozens of them, and probably thousands. There isn't a 1911 company out there who's the only company making them. You therefore have to take each one and judge it individually. If you have one that works, however, it works. If you don't, then it needs adjustment till it does.

Here's my personal experiences...

I just grabbed a G19. Same boring story. It just works. Every time.

I don't care how they look, those dang glocks go bang when I pull the trigger. I don't have to worry about what I'm feeding it or how I treat it. I learned that through a lot of rounds and some sad experience.

I'm back where I started.

But do you see what I mean? Comparing "The 1911" to a Glock is comparing apples and oranges. One refers to a design pattern used to put together a handgun to different standards by different companies using parts from several different companies each, and the other is an actual product made in house by a company called Glock.

But do you see what I mean? Comparing "The 1911" to a Glock is comparing apples and oranges. One refers to a design pattern used to put together a handgun to different standards by different companies using parts from several different companies each, and the other is an actual product made in house by a company called Glock. You have to narrow down the scope on the 1911 side at least to one company, but even then there are all sorts of mags out there in common use, and even that one company, for the most part, is using different parts from different manufacturers at any given time.

We need to invent a new term...how about 'SFPP' (Striker-Fired Polymer Pistol)?

Then we can lump everything into one basket like is done for the 1911. Glock, XD, M&P, Hi-Points, and all the rest share one reputation.

"I bought a new SFPP today and it's a piece of junk, therefor all SFPP's are junk."

Absolutely. Production of the 1911 is not monolithic like the Glock. I get that. I don't have massive 1911 experience, but as a 40 year shooter (almost 47 years old), you couldn't call it insignificant either. Through my years in the military, as an owner of 1911s, and as a shooter with relatives and friends that own them, I have experience with US Army 1911s, Colt Series 70s and 80s, older Springfields, an AMT, and a few others makers. All these guns were stock.

Also understand that the baseline is that I love the 1911 and the cartridge it fires and want to give it another chance that I might not give a CZ, Glock, or XD. That is why I want another one. I also recognize that I've not much recent experience with the 1911 (last 10 years). Note that I didn't list experience with Kimbers or some of the other current favorites. But until I get one that works consistently with quality factory ammo, I will carry something that has proven to ME that it will.

What I'm looking for in a 1911 is what I feel I've found in the G19, Beretta M9 (don't like that gun but it has always worked and shot well for me), CZ75 9mm, XD 9mm & .357 Sig, and S&W .38 SP amd .357 mag revolvers; a handgun that works out of the box with the magazines that came with it given proper maintenance, lube and quality ammo. I don't want to have to chase reliability through new mags, after market springs, tuning extractors, lowering ejection ports, polishing feed ramps, and throating barrels. It sounds like these guns are available. Here is to hoping I get one. Kimber, Dan Wesson, Para, and Springfield are the likely candidates. Until then and after, I will feel well armed carrying the previously mentioned G19, S&W M15, CZ75 (if I could get a frikkin reasonably priced holster for it) or friends' and relatives' XDs I have extensive experience with.

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I am the first person to make light of a Hi-point but in all honesty I have never seen one fail. I have not seen any shot very much though.

I have worked a few shootings/suicides with them and they always work.

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steelhead didn't the coast guard have to go with the glock for there units in either Texas or Florida? The article I read said it was the only pistol they could get that would go 12 hours with out rusting due to the salt water.

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The few guys I know that were in the navy (the last 15 years or so) and were on ships most of the time did not get to carry or shoot a pistol very much. I don't know how much they packed one in WWII and my guess would be that you don't either.

I was told that when they were in a port in a foreign country during WWII that only one man out of a group (I don't recall the number. one in ten maybe?) would pack a pistol onto land. I don't know how much salt water the old 1911 would have been subjective to during these outings.

I was refering to the coast guards chopper guys. Where ever they are stationed they fly and play in the salt water there entire shifts.


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