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None of the big .30's can keep up with a 7mm no matter what bullet one can load? I'm not an expert like some on this thread, so this is a serious question. Can the 7 not be equaled? mtmuley

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I never said dat,nor would I.

But when talking free lunches,the 7 is tough to whoop..............


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Damn I'd love to stretch out my pet 200AB hunting load out to 1000 for schits and grins....can't do it anywhere I have access to.

May not be the best BC available in a 308 but is plenty good for mu uses.

MV ave around 3150 out of my RUM.

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I've stretched lesser,farther................(grin)


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Well crap, I screwed the pouch! Practiced for several months with my 7 mag and 300 win mag for 600 yards shooting in Montana. I used 175s in the 7 and 180s in the 300. Guess what? I shot my buck at 40 yards. Go figure.

But I am going to be ready and better for next year with my Winchester 70 Classic S/S sythetic 300 RUM with 200 grain partitions. I am using 95 grains of Retumbo and a 215 primer in Federal premium brass. Hopefully that 180+ buck will be willing to stay out at 600 yards.

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I noted many moons ago,that the more I practiced,the "luckier" I got.

Not all can connect them dots............


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Yea and I know you've killed schit further too....

You are one of those real "lucky" types no doubt.....

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Stick, You didn't say it, but it was implied in the thread. Like I said, a serious question. Shooting stuff a long way off isn't a "free lunch" is it? If one is gonna go out to kill critters 3/4 of a mile away, why the Hell would one be concerned about powder use, cost and barrel wear etc.? Maybe I'm all F-ed up, but big bullets really fast seem like the ticket to me. mtmuley

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I'll not speak for anyone but myself,if only because I know what I said and why I said it.

As to the Free Lunch,a chambering simply cain't be any better than it's boolit and I could not say with a straight face,that the most case capacity available within a given bore diameter,is the best route to making [bleep] dead.

The only folks who think killing [bleep] is hard,is them that've killed the least amount of [bleep]. Intellesting correlation,for certain.................(grin)


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Fair enough. mtmuley

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I cain't like throats that exceed COAL latitudes either,because the last thing that interests me,is a non-repeater boltgun.

So I'd happily trade some case capacity to shorten COAL,so as to drive a boolit of my whim,directly from the magazine and into the throat.

That's what horns me up..............



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mtmuley the big 300 mags walk away from the 7 mags in long range performance especially the further you get out there.Run 200 gr bullets or heavier with good BC and it just simply does alot better. I'm running a 200 gr accubond at 3120, 4 inches high at 100 yards,only 17.5 MOA drop at 1000 yards.


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13.8 MOA for a 257Wby/100XLC to 1K,with a 4" high 100yd zero...................(grin)


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Between my 300 RUM/200gr accubond load and my 7mag/162gr A-max load, the rum has a little advantage in the wind.
Both rifles are rem 700 BDL's, the 7mag with a 24"barrel and the 300RUM with a 26" tube. The 200's are starting out at 3175fps out of my RUM, the 162's are running 3000FPS out of my 7mag.Both rifles weigh around 9Lb's. I do favor the 7mag for hunting but thats because of the rifle not the cartridge.
With a 100 yard zero My RUM needs 22MOA to get the 200's to 1000, The 162's/7mag 24.
The first shot is my 7mag, I put one over the steel to see how well I could spot a miss in the dry dirt. Every couple of shots I switched between the 7mag and the 300 RUM, I don't know what shots were with what.
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I like the 162 at 3100+ in my 24" Whizzums.

Hard to walk past the Montucky,when headed out the door...............


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Buddy, the partition is going backwards big time in the long range game. That sucker drops like a rock! All the velocity and oomph at the barrel quickly drops. The Nosler book is a funny joke on their drop charts and velocities, so please don't quote that to me. Go shoot it and you will see what I mean. Load the partition, then simply switch it with a ballistic tip or accubond of the same weight (working up the load of course to the same velocity). Or load any other reasonably aerodynamic bullet and your eyes will open wide at the difference in velocity, drop, wind drift etc. There are FAR better bullets for what you are seeking to do than the partition. Oh, and at long range, you will get a .30 caliber hole through and through...no expansion with the partition, unless you hit bone. Flinch


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Flinch, thanks for the information. The Nosler book is really streching things according to those who I know that really do shoot the long range stuff. They been encouraging me to do my own thing with the partitions and then try the AB and see for my self.

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highridge1, I also use the 200 grain Accubond, and have for about 8 years. My load pushes it 3200 fps, and I've used it close and very far away, so I know exacxtly what it will do. Lots of paper and critters have been ventilated by my RUM. I just get a kick out of the 7mm using the VLD crowd. mtmuley

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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
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In fairness,I'd say it takes a bigger case,to launch the 208 at like 162 speeds.

Thoughts?.................(grin)


In fairness, the higher BC of the 208 makes up neatly for 100 fps in velocity.

This is why I was able to prove you wrong on that 7-08/.308 thread, though it's yet to sink in apparantly.

Check it. What's that you like to say... Oh yeah, JBM don't lie.........

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Why sell the 300RUM 200fps short. You should run the same chart with the 208 A-Max at 3200 and see what happens.

A BC of .648 does sound interesting but 200gr Accubonds will continue to work quite well until somebody gets enough of the 208's in stock................................DJ


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She was talking 308Winchester not Ultra.

Thus the humor..............



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