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Victoria's dog,dammit!!


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Originally Posted by SamOlson

Tom, that must be the pup?

He's gettin' big!



Yep...dats Chesty Puller...


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Did you get your British line beauty in the states,Tom?


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That is a great pic.


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Originally Posted by isaac
Did you get your British line beauty in the states,Tom?


Yep...actually right here in town...pure luck, I ran on to the BEST breeder of Labs Ive ever seen...more laid back and stoic( British influence) and actually most have the boxier British head....
Never a Lab fan.....before now.... grin


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Bart, just visited my sister..shes got a 1/2 Pug and 1/2 Chihuahua......ugly-azzed dog...looks like a cross between a dog and a fruit bat....


Personality plus though....


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Pugs have such a wonderful personality,they can alter the genetics of a Chihuahua.... grin


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And this one did...to the better.... grin


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Originally Posted by Pete E
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I think folks is sorta missing the point on the Jack Russels.

Seems like "breeds" as we recognise the term at present are a whole lot more uniform than in the old days. For example Jack Russels. I've been familiar with the type since the 70's on account of my sisters' employment with the well-heeled "horsey" set back east.

What is between the ears is of course the most mportant part of a dog and even back then dogs identified as "Jack Russels" came in variations on a theme. Nobody cared, and best of all the AKC didn't recognise them as a breed. They weren't trendy outside of horse barns, and there they were valued for their gameness and ability to kill rats.

Same thing with rat terriers AKA "fiests". As I understand it, a rat terrier was less inclined to go to ground than a Jack Russel, and was more tractable off leash too. Out in the woods they would range about 40 yards out, putting up rabbits and treeing squirrels. I had one.

Rat terriers come in variations on a theme too, various sizes, running more leggier on average than a generally similar=appearing Jack Russel.

Popularity is killing the Jack Russel here, and the AKC has their claws in 'em now too. Seems like inbreeding for "confomration" kills a breed pretty quick. Rat terriers got recognized by the AKC not too long ago too, but fortunately, just like AKC "Australian Cattle Dogs" ("Heelers" to everyone else) "AKC Rat Terriers" appear not to have caught on yet either.

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The old days?? Well I guess in the good Parson could said to have been living in the old days and he developed the breed into a very particular type, but always form followed function.

His terriers had long legs as they were expected to follow the Hounds and not be carried as short legged terriers were. Their upper body confirmation was all about having the size and flxibility to get down a foxes earth...The dog itself was required to stand off and bay a fox rather than close and kill it as the terriers in the North were required to do..

So the Parsons dogs were quite uniform in size and type, it was only in the years afterwards that the breed morphed into the hotch potch we have to day where anything smallish and brown and white gets called a Jack Russell..

I do tend to agree about the damage the Kennel Club and show breeders have done though, as they have ruined many, many fine breeds..

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Pete,

You live a lot closer to the source than I, but I understand the short legged Jack Russels were bred in the days when foxes had been hunted to the edge of extinction in Britain.

There was no shortage of badgers though, and the breed was selectively bred to go into the den and drag the badger out. That calls for one gutsy tough little dog.

And it pretty well describes Momma's new pet, Rascal. He is short legged and thirty pounds of pure muscle. He loves playing tug-of-war more than anything else on Earth, and can drag my sixty pound grand daughter across a smooth laminate floor.

The only time he ever barks is when he hears a strange noise outside, or a knock at the door. He gets very excited when he hears the voice of a child, as he loves to play with kids.

His hair is short but wiry, and he has to live inside when the temps get below forty degrees. But he still goes out and plays for an hour at a time when it is near zero degrees F. We have three big cats that live around the house, Rascal would love to chase them. But he can not get them to run from him.

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The girls tried to sic him on a "big mean" bull snake
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This little guy is smart as a whip, and very trainable. He just gets a bit hard of listening when he is after a raccoon or a skunk. I doubt that I have ever seen a more affectionate dog.


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Bought Hunter from a eastern shore breeder in 97 and he loved even the most miserable parts of goose/duck hunting weather. Only dog who stayed in hotel rooms with me. Lost him in late 08. You've seen my spiraling downfall from there! This is a in-ground goose blind pit in Oxford Md, the year the eastern shore ruined goose hunting.


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Damn! I wish there was some way we could get over some of these dogs that have shared our lives...


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Originally Posted by isaac
Bought Hunter from a eastern shore breeder in 97 and he loved even the most miserable parts of goose/duck hunting weather. Only dog who stayed in hotel rooms with me. Lost him in late 08. You've seen my spiraling downfall from there! This is a in-ground goose blind pit in Oxford Md, the year the eastern shore ruined goose hunting.


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Great photo...too bad Dogs didn't live as long as Parrots. :>)

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Originally Posted by okok

Great photo...too bad Dogs didn't live as long as Parrots. :>)

That's no lie...


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I think the little rescue dog will be a keeper. I've never been around a more laid back dog in my life.

He is totally content to lay on the floor next to the kids and watch them play a game or build a puzzle.


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These threads kill me, and one of the main reasons I can't wait to retire.

I can see some form or terrier and a lab.


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He's not mine. Just pay for food and vet. I said,HE'S NOT MINE!!


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
These threads kill me, and one of the main reasons I can't wait to retire.

I can see some form or terrier and a lab.


Scott,

Dogs are twice as great in combination with a passle of grandkids.

You better get busy.


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