Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Muzzleloaders Smoothbores anyone?

Ha Yen,
ET is just being ornery. Imagine that...??
While it sounds contradictory, style-wise and historically, you could have a "smoothbore rifle". The barrel is not rifled so it is not a true rifle but a 'gun' that has a rifle type stock, has a heavy walled barrel and front and back sights could be correctly termed a "smoothbore" rifle.

Johnny $

Look close at mine. Front and rear sights yet is a fowler.

THIS is a rifle


Love dem Lancasters

ET,
That is a fine looking RIFLE! Details...?

I have an Isaac Haines from Jim Chambers -- but it is in a cardboard box in the garage - in a million pieces. My dear little wife says that I can't start anymore projects until I get my new shop done and move the mess out of the garage...(sigh)

Thanks for the pics!

Johnny $

Thought you would have had red plaid kilts and knee socks to go with that outfit!!

I told Mrs Flem to look at your pic and she said, "Tell Jim style points for the man purse."

Woody,
That is his everyday outfit. He saves the colorful stuff as his Sunday-go-to-meeting attire!
...and he has high heels that go with the man purse



Johnny $

I believe you're right!!! Where's home??

Rural Madison County. How about you?




Johnny $

Got an acreage south of Plattsmouth up on the bluff overlookin the river...

Hey now, that is a great area! Any eagles out and about?



Johnny $

Not too many now, but back at the tail end of bird migration had several in the trees behind my house..seems they're always back there lookin for easy pickins....

Yet another fine kit ET. Seems I recognize the "man purse" fowling bag. That's ok...my wife always told her friends "Vic's making another purse". Wadda they know anyway 'bout such important stuff...

Saw Mrs Flem's comment and couldn't help but bump it along a little.

Too bad Jim isn't here to defend hisself!


Johnny $

smooth rifle

The rifle is a Lancaster,50 cal using an L&R Classic lock. Very quick lock! Done by Brian Turner. SWEEET shooting iron!! Around the muzzle are stamped alternating "x" and "o" 's. I was told that they are the Pennsy Dutch Hunter's good luck hex. As for my "colors" We ain't rquired to wear that revolting hunter orange here so the green/black or red/black check patterns are good to go. Actually quite visible without looking like yer on a quest for a whorehouse. The warbags or shooting pouches historically pre-date any of the [bleep] you guys might wanna buy


Added: Cap, I REALLY like YOUR artillery!!!!

Thank you . but the smooth rifle isnt mine . its one i built for a fella over in Kennewick.

Here is my fowling bag for my Hudson valley . Not sure if I showed you folks over hear this or not

Cap YOU built it!! You built the Hudson Valley fowler too and they are superlative IMHO. Now dese guys gotta realize that THEY are behind the curve on our warbags

cap, fine work as usual. That smooth rifle is NICE. Is the engraving your work also? I believe I've seen that bag before, pretty sure I have. Over on another Campfire, the one with 'sticks and Mike and LD?

captchee,

Everything you do is a work of art. Like that smoothie!

I will likely build a Fusil de Chasse from a Pecatonica parts set for my first build. It won't be HC; but then again I'm not so concerned about that. Just want a smoothie for my first so I can do small game and deer until I put a rifle together.

Good work friend!

Qtip
Soli Deo Gloria!

thank you all for the kind words .

Yes sharpshooter the engraving is mine ..
I also believe I may have posted the bag over there . It was made by Allan Roberts, specifically for my Hudson Valley . My wife did the bead work on the strap .

Qtip

The Tulle from Dic at Pecatonica can be a very nice piece if done correctly .
I owned and shot one for years .
Then thing to remember though is that just like the ToW assembly , its just provides you with a base .
ToW has a set of plans for the fusil de chase as well . But if you are wanting to do one correctly then they also need to be changed a little. .
As of yet there isn�t anyone that I know of that sells the parts for a true representation .
But with some research you can work through that . The biggest issue is really the lock . But the Davis sells a lock that with some modifications to the pan , works very nicely .
But again it all depends on how accurate of a representation you want to get .

When I built my Tule some years ago , I chose iron hardware over brass . Not based on authenticity, mind you . Frankly that�s just what I wanted . Same goes with the Hudson Valley I posted . To be correct the gage should be much larger . The hardware should also be of brass not Damascus. The Tang is also way to long and thin .
But on that build I was not trying to be HC . I was building what I wanted for myself .

Here are some photos of my Tulle and a short video of me shooting it .
As a note . I found that shooting the tulle required a different hold then with any of my other rifles .
Also notice the recoil in the video seems excessive. The load that day was 80 grains of 3F with a wad and RB � I never really felt to much recoil in the gun .









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speaking for myself though . i would have to say that one of the nicest shooting smoothies i have ever built . excluding SXS would have to be this type D Fusil .
Again though this piece is not HC . The customer has his own wants which were to be incorporated.
She was slim ,long and light . From the bench she patterned a 1 hole 3 shot group .

this actually was Freds first flintlock . i took photos of these targets the day i delivered it





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first 3 shots from the bench 25 yards prior to bending the barrel
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off hand at 50 and 75 yards after bending the barrel . as you can see he has alittle work to do on finding a load . but at 50 she was in the black . the 75 range is the the uper patern with the red marker dot as the target . at that range she was alittle low . but he was also again using only a 60 grain charge

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one of these days ,im going to take things to the next step and do a fuse lock . i think that would be a kick in the pants

Man,that is a really beautiful piece!! You do NICE work!!!