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In the late 60s I got a pre-64 M70 in 338 and I shot it alot. Mostly I used 210 Partitions, and like I say, I shot it alot. The best group I ever got was .56", but it shot between an inch and .63" when everything came together. One inch groups were something I could pretty much count on.
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Hey Bob,
Do I infer from your post that Sierra's and PT are similar enough in shape that load development can be done with Sierra's, then tweaked with PT's? Looking at a 30 cal, 180 in both varieties, they look remarkably similar. B:That has been my general experience,but "discretion is always the better part of valor",and it is never a bad idea to back off a couple grains and come back up when going from the Sierra to the Partition......doing so I have generally wound up in the same place,or very close to it....this is little trouble and can be accomplished easily.... The Partition has that....well....Partition.....and this may be a bit "harder" than the CC construction of a Sierra, so it never hurts to be careful. Casey and OU76 have a handle on this as it looks like they have been doing the same thing for quite awhile as well..
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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MD is correct. Bullets are literally a batch to batch item. Once, it was common thought that the heaviest weightes in each caliber shot best but then next box can disprove that.
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I have been using Partitions for a very long time and I too believe they've gotten better in the accuracy department. One thing I've noticed is that I get fewer unexplained fliers these days than I used to get. But then I'm better at putting together straight ammo now, thanks to Mule Deer.
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I had a Kimber Montana in 257 Roberts that would put 3 shots reliably into a 1/2" with the 100 gr Partition.
Bob, Mind if I ask what your load was on that one?? I've got some 100 partitions to try out in my Bob as well... I'm thinking 46 to 47 grains H4350.
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In several 30-06's and one 9.3X62 Partitions have been the most accurate bullet. The only down side is cost.
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I had a Kimber Montana in 257 Roberts that would put 3 shots reliably into a 1/2" with the 100 gr Partition.
Bob, Mind if I ask what your load was on that one?? I've got some 100 partitions to try out in my Bob as well... I'm thinking 46 to 47 grains H4350. Marty it was 47 H4350,WW case and LR primer.....it would do the same thing with 100 Sierra's.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I recently loaded some 180 gr partitions in .30-06 with Ramshot Hunter, JB's recipe. It is the most accurate load (of ANY bullet weight) I've shot in several different '06 rifles. In 4 rifles, they all do 3-shot groups of 3/4-7/8".
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Hello,
Just 3 hours ago I checked my 7x57 and .375 for next week Red Deer hunt with my son. As usual I confirm their regulation at center at 200 meters. The 7x57 with 175 grs Nosler Partition old semi-pointed, at 2650 fps, made 2" at that distance. The .375 with 260 grs Nosler partition at 2800 fps, made 2,5" at 200 meters. As usual!
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Hey Bob,
Do I infer from your post that Sierra's and PT are similar enough in shape that load development can be done with Sierra's, then tweaked with PT's? Looking at a 30 cal, 180 in both varieties, they look remarkably similar. It has worked for me in 270's with 150 grainers and in a 30-06AI with 200 grainers--out to 400 yds. That doesn't mean all calibers annd weights will "crossover" though.
Casey
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Is that corelation between Partitions and Sierras with Pro-Hunters or GameKings?
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I haven't found any noticeable difference--except that some rifles shoot one or the other a little more accurately.
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I have got better accuracy from the Combined Tech. Partitions.
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I only wish I had the same luck with Partitions as the folks on the board here are having. I shoot them and love the performance but have NEVER had a Partition be the most accurate hunting bullet I have tried in any rifle from .224 to .375. Just last week I tried 5 or 6 different loads with 125's in a 260 and the BEST group was just over 1.5. The Ballistic tips averaged .64 with the exact same loads Love them just can't get the accuracy I would like with them, I'll keep trying and keep shooting them but wish I had your experiences.
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Is that corelation between Partitions and Sierras with Pro-Hunters or GameKings? In my case it was GameKings.
Casey
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Partitions have always been accurate in every hunting rifle I own.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I have got better accuracy from the Combined Tech. Partitions. Me too. They were great bullets. John
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My favorite hunting bullet for years. I've used them in the 223, 250, 260, 6.5x55 and 308. Always 1 moa or better. Alot of guys have trouble getting the 224 version to shoot but my 223's love them, and they are deadly. Heres a typical 223 group...
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My favorite hunting bullet for years. I've used them in the 223, 250, 260, 6.5x55 and 308. Always 1 moa or better. Alot of guys have trouble getting the 224 version to shoot but my 223's love them, and they are deadly. Heres a typical 223 group... What twist are you shooting here????
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These were fired in a 1-9. Currently I have one 1-12, three 1-9 and a 1-8 on the way from Pac-Nor. I have not tried them in the 1-12 as I just picked up this rifle lst week. The 1-9's all love them.
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