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Next time you empty the dishwasher, take a close look at them. You'll likely find that they look scummy, certainly not clean. Thank our nanny state government for that. Recent regulations have removed all phosphates from dish soap, and that's what got them clean. I read that Proctor & Gamble's Cascade brand is by far the most used brand and they got hit particularly hard. Cascade just doesn't do the job any more (our dishes look like crap). Glasses still have fingerprints and pan look greasy.

In their infinite wisdom, though, they exempted restaurants. I read that you can still get quality commercial soap from restaurant supply stores, but you'll likely have to buy a big box, maybe as much as 50 lb.


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What's a "dishwasher"?


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Originally Posted by teal
What's a "dishwasher"?


I thought I was the only one who did it "old school"..


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The use of antiseptic soaps and ultra clean environments have contributed to the Mega-super bacteria we have today. We have weakened our immune systems. Phosphate free soap aint gonna kill us. Common staph, emboldened by the indiscriminate use of broad spectrum anitbiotics, and our obssessive use of antibacterials will kill us. Just use a little elbow grease to wash dishes.

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The EPA leaned on the soap companies and they have all pulled Phosphates out of their products.

Our glasses need hand washing to make them shine again.

I'll look at restaurant suppliers for REAL soap.


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Nothing beats carb and choke cleaner! grin nah seriously, ill have to check mine. I dont make many dishes dirty, rarely eat at home. But I do use Cascade. Ill have to look into it.

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What's a "dishwasher"?

She's the same one that runs the snowblower


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Next time you empty the dishwasher, take a close look at them. You'll likely find that they look scummy, certainly not clean. Thank our nanny state government for that. Recent regulations have removed all phosphates from dish soap, and that's what got them clean. I read that Proctor & Gamble's Cascade brand is by far the most used brand and they got hit particularly hard. Cascade just doesn't do the job any more (our dishes look like crap). Glasses still have fingerprints and pan look greasy.

In their infinite wisdom, though, they exempted restaurants. I read that you can still get quality commercial soap from restaurant supply stores, but you'll likely have to buy a big box, maybe as much as 50 lb.


Go to the hardware store and buy some sodium phosphate and put a tsp in with your dishes.


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Originally Posted by teal
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We have two of them...

Me, and my wife. laugh

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Pre-ban Cascade has a high "blackmarket" value. cool Like highcapacity magazines during the assault weapon ban.. When they mandated taking out the Phosphates in the consumer products, it just turned into the suck.


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The dishwasher in my house has a name.................... Terry. smile smile smile The clean dish inspector is Kathy, and she has a good eye!!! smile frown smile


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Originally Posted by elkhunter76
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Next time you empty the dishwasher, take a close look at them. You'll likely find that they look scummy, certainly not clean. Thank our nanny state government for that. Recent regulations have removed all phosphates from dish soap, and that's what got them clean. I read that Proctor & Gamble's Cascade brand is by far the most used brand and they got hit particularly hard. Cascade just doesn't do the job any more (our dishes look like crap). Glasses still have fingerprints and pan look greasy.

In their infinite wisdom, though, they exempted restaurants. I read that you can still get quality commercial soap from restaurant supply stores, but you'll likely have to buy a big box, maybe as much as 50 lb.


Go to the hardware store and buy some sodium phosphate and put a tsp in with your dishes.


Yep. Either Sodium Tripolyphosphate (STPP) or Trisodium Phosphate (TSP) will help the current .gov neutered formulations work much better.


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Yep. Either Sodium Tripolyphosphate (STPP) or Trisodium Phosphate (TSP) will help the current .gov neutered formulations work much better.


+1. Works in the laundry soap too.


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Squirt a shot of lemon juice in the bottom before closing the door.

Problem solved.


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Yep. Either Sodium Tripolyphosphate (STPP) or Trisodium Phosphate (TSP) will help the current .gov neutered formulations work much better.


+1. Works in the laundry soap too.


For sure. Adding some Sodium Percarbonate powder is a good color safe bleach, as well, though it is classified as an Oxidizer & needs very careful handling and storage. It is most active in hotter water. It's what I use to wash hunting gear, as it is a good bacteria (Scent) killer & is much safer than the high active versions of liquid Hydrogen Peroxide.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
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What's a "dishwasher"?


I thought I was the only one who did it "old school"..


I could get a dishwasher but I doubt my wife would use it. Without power of running water in the house it would just take up room.

You guys and your fancy toys. grin


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I used to work with a guy whose wife went on vacation for a couple weeks, and he put all the dirty dishes in the freezer while she was gone.
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It is what was wearing the wedding dress!


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What's a "dishwasher"?


I thought I was the only one who did it "old school"..


Old school here too.

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I was wondering why my dishes had spots on them. I was thinking there was something wrong with the machine.

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