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Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? LionMan #5070733 03/22/11
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bowhgs280 Campfire Member B Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 114 East Tx	No dog in this fight.Just wondering. Why do we keep going back to what a pack of wolves would do when the question seems to be a one on one fight. Like I said just wondering? Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? bowhgs280 #5071744 03/22/11
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MILES58 Campfire Tracker M Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,735 Minnesota	Cynology (pronounced /sɨˈnɒlədʒi/) is the study of matters related to canines or domestic dogs. In English it may be a term sometimes used by dog trainers[1][2] and enthusiasts who informally study the dog,[3] or, in a pedantic manner, to refer to the study of dogs.[4] It is not a field of science, although the use of the Classical construction (linking of two Greek or Latin based words) in English is used to imply that it is a discipline or scientific. The word does not appear in standard English dictionaries. IOW A bullshit term used to impress the uneducated.

Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? MILES58 #5071823 03/22/11
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gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,253 Likes: 2 Oklahoma	The only wolf killin breed Ive heard of is highly specialized extremely fast, with a champion's pedigree, called the [Red Whistler], better known a the 208gn.-AMAX Gunner Trump Won!

Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? gunner500 #5071863 03/22/11
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BMD Campfire Tracker Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4,451 Texas	Fila Brasileiro would prolly hold his own Google them. Scott

Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? BMD #5071931 03/22/11
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gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,253 Likes: 2 Oklahoma	Damn thats a brute, prolly knockout 50 lbs of feed in a week. Gunner Trump Won!

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Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? gunner500 #5072623 03/22/11
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BMD Campfire Tracker Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4,451 Texas	I owned three til daughter was born didn't want to risk it the males were 200lbs plus and female was 150lbs no since in risking it with child, I will have another one soon less worries bout wife and daughter when i amnot home. Scott

Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? MILES58 #5072701 03/22/11
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LionMan Campfire Greenhorn L Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 42	Originally Posted by MILES58 Cynology (pronounced /sɨˈnɒlədʒi/) is the study of matters related to canines or domestic dogs. In English it may be a term sometimes used by dog trainers[1][2] and enthusiasts who informally study the dog,[3] or, in a pedantic manner, to refer to the study of dogs.[4] It is not a field of science, although the use of the Classical construction (linking of two Greek or Latin based words) in English is used to imply that it is a discipline or scientific. The word does not appear in standard English dictionaries. IOW A bullshit term used to impress the uneducated. Cynology is a fairly new term and just like many other new "words" that does not make it less credible just because you don't find it in your out dated dictionary. It is not my fault that you are behind the times. Read something new fool. Learn something. That way you might be able to teach the fruit of your unsavory loins more than how to beat a wife, OK? Ten years ago a "smart phone" made no sense... 4 years ago an "android phone" made no sense... How long ago did the word "Iphone" make no sense. You are an idiot. You are barely able to google something. The only amazing thing you ever accomplished is getting the "Internet" (another term that didn't exist not too long ago) in your trailer. You are pathetic in ways you will never understand. Last edited by LionMan; 03/22/11.

Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? bowhgs280 #5072711 03/22/11
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LionMan Campfire Greenhorn L Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 42	Originally Posted by bowhgs280 No dog in this fight.Just wondering. Why do we keep going back to what a pack of wolves would do when the question seems to be a one on one fight. Like I said just wondering? The reason why I keep going back is because of this nit wit who insists that if 10 wolves steal his poodle while he is squatting behind his trailer, that means that the wolf can kill ANY canine even a 180 pound Tosa Inu. You should read some of that guys posts... If stupid where people... This guy would be China.

Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? BMD #5072730 03/22/11
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LionMan Campfire Greenhorn L Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 42	Originally Posted by BMD Fila Brasileiro would prolly hold his own Google them. A good Fila will DEFINITELY more than hold his own. The Fila is not the most powerful breed by any means but they are up there and more than a match to the wolf.

Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? gunner500 #5072751 03/22/11
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Wyogal Campfire Regular W Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,990	Originally Posted by gunner500 The only wolf killin breed Ive heard of is highly specialized extremely fast, with a champion's pedigree, called the [Red Whistler], better known a the 208gn.-AMAX Gunner I was thinkin' more like the 6.5x55 140gr sp. http://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?q=Laughi...adlt=moderate&t=1&mw=247Formerly Bearmgc near Grasshopper Glacier WY

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Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? gunner500 #5072785 03/22/11
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LionMan Campfire Greenhorn L Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 42	Originally Posted by gunner500 The only wolf killin breed Ive heard of is highly specialized extremely fast, with a champion's pedigree, called the [Red Whistler], better known a the 208gn.-AMAX Gunner No such breed but there are plenty of others that kill wolves with regularity in the illegal dog fighting rings in what is called novelty matches. They are called novelty matches because everyone already knows the outcome. It is purely done for sick entertainment. Within any given breed there is a huge variation of quality. But if you consider only best going against best then the results are inevitably the same. The breeds which are better fighters than the wolf are... Pitbull Perro De Presa Tosa Inu Bully Kutta Kangal Caucasian Ovtcharka Last edited by LionMan; 03/22/11.

Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? LionMan #5072906 03/22/11
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BMD Campfire Tracker Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4,451 Texas	Fila Brasiliero Scott

Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? BMD #5072931 03/22/11
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LionMan Campfire Greenhorn L Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 42	Originally Posted by BMD Fila Brasiliero Beautiful dog

Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? LionMan #5073271 03/23/11
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MILES58 Campfire Tracker M Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,735 Minnesota	Originally Posted by LionMan Cynology is a fairly new term and just like many other new "words" that does not make it less credible just because you don't find it in your out dated dictionary. It is not my fault that you are behind the times. Read something new fool. Learn something. That way you might be able to teach the fruit of your unsavory loins more than how to beat a wife, OK? Ten years ago a "smart phone" made no sense... 4 years ago an "android phone" made no sense... How long ago did the word "Iphone" make no sense. Figures you'd come up with Iphone. you're probably a teenage girl and I bet you think you have credentials in that as well. Making up a bullshit name for liking dogs to pass yourself off as something you are not doesn't begin to make you an expert. You keep running your mouth, but nothing comes out about where in North America any dogs have been used successfully to kill wild wolves. The would not seem to be any more to you than your bullshit trying to make yourself look professional.

Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? MILES58 #5073353 03/23/11
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wilkeshunter Campfire Outfitter W Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 11,299 Likes: 3 North Carolina	A South African Boerbel is a tough customer. Maybe a Tibetian Mastiff or Anatolian Shepard too. How about a Dogo Argentino? I would have to say that the Kangal is the toughest dog in the world overall.

Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? MILES58 #5073701 03/23/11
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 42 L LionMan Campfire Greenhorn
LionMan Campfire Greenhorn L Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 42	Originally Posted by MILES58 Originally Posted by LionMan Cynology is a fairly new term and just like many other new "words" that does not make it less credible just because you don't find it in your out dated dictionary. It is not my fault that you are behind the times. Read something new fool. Learn something. That way you might be able to teach the fruit of your unsavory loins more than how to beat a wife, OK? Ten years ago a "smart phone" made no sense... 4 years ago an "android phone" made no sense... How long ago did the word "Iphone" make no sense. Figures you'd come up with Iphone. you're probably a teenage girl and I bet you think you have credentials in that as well. Making up a bullshit name for liking dogs to pass yourself off as something you are not doesn't begin to make you an expert. You keep running your mouth, but nothing comes out about where in North America any dogs have been used successfully to kill wild wolves. The would not seem to be any more to you than your bullshit trying to make yourself look professional. Again you expose yourself for the moron that you are. You don't know me at all and your assumptions are based on nothing. Do you think that the people on here cannot see that? You know nothing about me. If you met me I could make you clean my bathroom with your spit bubbling lips just by looking at you sideways boy. I am your superior intellectually, financially, physically and any other "allys" you can think of. I am not hiding at all. Anyone who cares to do so can find out who I am. I am a public figure and use this to help others canine and human alike. I made my first million before I turned 18 and have since given 50 percent of every single dollar I have made to help the homeless, to fund no kill animal shelters, put up big money to bust dog fighting rings and so on. What are YOU doing to help make this world a better place you ignorant ass hat? Again you didn't get the point of my post. I was "trying" to explain to you that NEW things and developments have happened since the big flood. Just because backwards losers like you think it is OK to go to family reunions to meet "chicks" and are still exited about the invention of the wheel does not mean nothing new has happened. Out of everything I said to you the ONLY think you retained is the word "Iphone". You didn't get my meaning... You couldn't get what I was trying to say. You are a joke. Here is what I am willing to do... You asked me at some point to bring my dogs to fight your wolves. That shows me you are a loser pussy like Michael Vick. I hate animal abusers who get off on dogs and or wolves fighting. This is why I have dedicated my life to eradicate this evil. I do my own fighting boy. I won't put my dogs in the ring because they are my family but I will go there myself especially with a wanna be dog fighter like yourself... Other than being a twit who wants to see animals fight you seem to have a real hard on for me. I am almost flattered by your man crush so here is what I will do for you... Because of my job I travel a lot. I am sure at some point I will be in your area. Just tell me what state you are in and the next time I am there I will post here to let you know. Then you and I can go a few rounds at your local dojo. Does that sound exiting for a little rump ranger like yourself? I will video tape the whole "session" and put it up on youtube with links for all to see. Forget about dog fighting wolves for a second and lets talk about YOU manning up. You have a big mouth hiding behind your computer. Let's see what happens when you have to back up that big smelly trap. Let me show you just real I am boy. I promise I won't spank you too hard. Let's have a little training session and see who is the girl here. I was looking forward to good conversation with some good people. For the most part that has happened. Almost everyone on here is a gentleman. You are nothing but a skitmark on this interesting site. I am done talking dogs fighting wolves with you. Lets talk you and me finding out who the better man is since that is where you are headed with me. How about it boy? Do your own fighting wimp! Last edited by LionMan; 03/23/11.

Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? wilkeshunter #5073746 03/23/11
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LionMan Campfire Greenhorn L Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 42	Originally Posted by wilkeshunter A South African Boerbel is a tough customer. Maybe a Tibetian Mastiff or Anatolian Shepard too. How about a Dogo Argentino? I would have to say that the Kangal is the toughest dog in the world overall. You are right indeed. I forgot to mention those. I would not say that the Kangal is the toughest dog in the world though. If a 150 pound Kangal could defeat (barely) a 50 pound pitbull then one has to give credit to a dog much smaller holding his own against a behemoth. The kangal is magnificent. I have owned a few ten years ago. Had them while I lived in Turkey. They are one of my favorite breeds. You will notice that most fanciers of certain breeds insist that THEIR breed is the toughest of them all. That is just not true. There are too many factors involved in that statement. Not all Kangals are equal, you know? The Tosa, I can tell you from personal experience as well, can be even bigger and is much more powerful than the Kangal. I am not saying the Tosa is better... They are different breeds. The Kangal is more aloof while the Tosa is more intense about combat as well as loving his person. When it comes to power a good Mastino is probably the end of all things. Unfortunately trying to find a REAL Mastino is very hard these days because showdog breeders have started to ruin this breed. But let me tell you... A good Mastino is an absolute monster. The Mastin Espanol is another breed that actually is used to fight off wolves and is awarded a special collar after his first wolf kill. There are many dogs that can hold their own with a wolf. And just about all of the fighting breeds can literally execute one. In fact.. There are many historical accounts of Alexander The Great sending his molossian hounds to battle much more fearsome animals than the wolf because he knew the wolf was not a proper challenge for a combat specialist.

Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? Wyogal #5073823 03/23/11
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gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,253 Likes: 2 Oklahoma	Originally Posted by Wyogal Originally Posted by gunner500 The only wolf killin breed Ive heard of is highly specialized extremely fast, with a champion's pedigree, called the [Red Whistler], better known a the 208gn.-AMAX Gunner I was thinkin' more like the 6.5x55 140gr sp. That'll get You some wolf hides to there Wyogal, when the time comes, bust there butts. Gunner Trump Won!

Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? gunner500 #5074502 03/23/11
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BillyGoatGruff Campfire Ranger B Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 19,564 Likes: 5 MAGA	Thanks for you're informational and well informed posts Lionman. I appreciate what you have brought to the table. I've a question for you if you've the time. Based on your experience, and knowing there are innumerable variables involved, and each dog being an individual, is there a breed that consistently wins in the fights you've seen? I've no interest in owning any of the fighting breeds, but given the size difference between some of these top breeds you've mentioned, I curious as to how they played out in the ring. Also, are there different styles of dogfighting, or are they all pretty much the same, i.e. a pit with high walls. One last question, are there certain breeds in your experience that don't loan themselves to any other type of life than fighting? MAGA

Re: Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves? LionMan #5074599 03/23/11
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moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,945 Likes: 1 PA	Originally Posted by LionMan Originally Posted by MILES58 Originally Posted by LionMan Cynology is a fairly new term and just like many other new "words" that does not make it less credible just because you don't find it in your out dated dictionary. It is not my fault that you are behind the times. Read something new fool. Learn something. That way you might be able to teach the fruit of your unsavory loins more than how to beat a wife, OK? Ten years ago a "smart phone" made no sense... 4 years ago an "android phone" made no sense... How long ago did the word "Iphone" make no sense. Figures you'd come up with Iphone. you're probably a teenage girl and I bet you think you have credentials in that as well. Making up a bullshit name for liking dogs to pass yourself off as something you are not doesn't begin to make you an expert. You keep running your mouth, but nothing comes out about where in North America any dogs have been used successfully to kill wild wolves. The would not seem to be any more to you than your bullshit trying to make yourself look professional. Again you expose yourself for the moron that you are. You don't know me at all and your assumptions are based on nothing. Do you think that the people on here cannot see that? You know nothing about me. If you met me I could make you clean my bathroom with your spit bubbling lips just by looking at you sideways boy. I am your superior intellectually, financially, physically and any other "allys" you can think of. I am not hiding at all. Anyone who cares to do so can find out who I am. I am a public figure and use this to help others canine and human alike. I made my first million before I turned 18 and have since given 50 percent of every single dollar I have made to help the homeless, to fund no kill animal shelters, put up big money to bust dog fighting rings and so on. What are YOU doing to help make this world a better place you ignorant ass hat? Again you didn't get the point of my post. I was "trying" to explain to you that NEW things and developments have happened since the big flood. Just because backwards losers like you think it is OK to go to family reunions to meet "chicks" and are still exited about the invention of the wheel does not mean nothing new has happened. Out of everything I said to you the ONLY think you retained is the word "Iphone". You didn't get my meaning... You couldn't get what I was trying to say. You are a joke. Here is what I am willing to do... You asked me at some point to bring my dogs to fight your wolves. That shows me you are a loser pussy like Michael Vick. I hate animal abusers who get off on dogs and or wolves fighting. This is why I have dedicated my life to eradicate this evil. I do my own fighting boy. I won't put my dogs in the ring because they are my family but I will go there myself especially with a wanna be dog fighter like yourself... Other than being a twit who wants to see animals fight you seem to have a real hard on for me. I am almost flattered by your man crush so here is what I will do for you... Because of my job I travel a lot. I am sure at some point I will be in your area. Just tell me what state you are in and the next time I am there I will post here to let you know. Then you and I can go a few rounds at your local dojo. Does that sound exiting for a little rump ranger like yourself? I will video tape the whole "session" and put it up on youtube with links for all to see. Forget about dog fighting wolves for a second and lets talk about YOU manning up. You have a big mouth hiding behind your computer. Let's see what happens when you have to back up that big smelly trap. Let me show you just real I am boy. I promise I won't spank you too hard. Let's have a little training session and see who is the girl here. I was looking forward to good conversation with some good people. For the most part that has happened. Almost everyone on here is a gentleman. You are nothing but a skitmark on this interesting site. I am done talking dogs fighting wolves with you. Lets talk you and me finding out who the better man is since that is where you are headed with me. How about it boy? Do your own fighting wimp! Hey take it a little easy on Michael Vick would ya? He's our QB here.

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