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How about if you "improved" your golf cart...you know..made it go faster...? Hmmm.....a Tactical golf cart!
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Dat would be "Tacticool"...!!
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Swampy " Before".... Swampy " After".....
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How about if you "improved" your golf cart...you know..made it go faster...? Drop one of these bad boys in there and maybe it would.
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Swampy " After"..... Tell me that's not.......really?
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too FF!!!!
back to the OP, i like the idea of a 243AI but have absolutely no experiance with it. I've been a 6 Rem fan for a long long time and just got my first 243 recently. I'm starting to warm up to it but it's taking me a while... i might send it out to be AI'ed as i think that'll make me warm up to it faster...
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Paul, you running 105's in the 6mm? You've ran the 223AI enough to know what it does when you stretch it out. The 243AI get to 1K still doing 1700+, needing just 20MOA of ele, and drifts 6MOA in a 10mph crosswind from a 250yd zero....that's nothing to sneeze at.
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I'm ready...
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only two bullets i've shot in the 243 so far have been 80gr Bergers and 85 HPBT game kings. Used the 85's for deer this year and it worked, but not how i like. I have one box of 105Amax's to try but i'm running factory tube and don't know if it'll stabilize? i'll have to give it a try and see if it's worth it to go AI on this one or just get a new tube with the proper twist...
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also, the berger bullets are a PAIN to get to shoot for some reason. i've tried them in 243, 6mm, and 308. I'm about to say screw it and just give up on trying them.. only one that had acceptable accuracy was the 243 with the 80's and those are varmint bullets...
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Brad/Eddy: Good thread!The cartridge really moves along! I did not realize but it is faster than the XC,which I asked about because we have a lot of club members who shoot it in matches.Case forming looks easy.....and a 5 grain advantage over the parent case will get significant with heavy bullets in such a small bore. Not much not to like....and Lapua brass too.I will see if my smith has a reamer. Thanks all!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Swamp, How can you say that a lighter firing pin with a faster spring, giving you a faster lock time, won't help with accuracy? Are you going to tell me that blueprinting a Mauser won't help with accuracy as well? Your thoughts please.
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I had great luck with the 105g Speer spitzers on deer and elk out of my Rem 700 BDL in 243 in the early 70's before I switched to a 270 (mainly due to the grizzly population). Not sure how they would hold up at 240 Wby Mag velocities, but they did great at 3000 fps out of my 243.
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It will help but an antique design can only be helped so much. The Mauser is fine where accuracy isn't the primary requirement. For me anyway a .243 should be very accurate. The reason the Remington 721 (later the Model 700) was invented is because Bench Rest shooters couldn't get great accuracy with the actions available at that time. Nothing has changed.
The Hornady A-Max will out shoot the Bergers.
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Nothing against the 700. I own four of them and they are all sub-moa rifles. The only other Mauser I have built right now is my 7x57, and it too is sub-moa. Again, if the action and bolt are trued, with a quality bbl, the cartridge does not care one bit if it's a Mauser or Rem 700. Tight tolerences and a good machinist is what gives a rifle it's potential, not the name on the receiver. The guy squeezing the trigger gets some credit as well.
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The 3 minute lock time of the Mauser, and the huge extractor pulling the cartridge to one side of the chamber helps too;)
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You seem to be stuck on lock time. Read carefully, I am putting a Ti(titanium) firing pin with a speed spring. That decreases lock time. And, with neck sized AI brass, the chamber fit should be 1:1. Therefore, no effect caused by the extractor.
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Does anyone shoot Accubonds in their 243 AI's I use them in my 25-06 and have great results.
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