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Originally Posted by SeanD
At 650 yards the 140 AB @3100 passes up the 110 TTSX @3500fps in velocity according to JBM.


I just did a bit of work on JBM and I find that the 140 does indeed pass up the 110 speed wise when one gets to 750 yds.

And I used the 110 TTSX @ 3500 (which I personally feel is awfully fast in the .270) and I used the 140 Accu @ 3100 (which is an honest 100 fps too fast in most all .270's).

One other note, the @ 1K the 140 is moving 99 fps faster than the 110.

Drop wise, with both sighted dead nuts on @ 100 (which I feel is the only way to go apples to apples) the 140 doesn't catch up. I only took it out to 1K but at 1K the 140 has 24.1" more drop.

Just a bit of mindless BG (ballistic gack) but still fun to noodle around. Kind of amazing what speed will do isn't it.

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Yeah I agree. I probably had slighly different inputs.

Maybe the speeds are optimistic for both, but the 110TTSX actually does have a decent BC for what it is, and the accubond is about the best .270 long range hunting bullet available. Just suprising to me, I assumed the 110 would be terrible past 300 yards or so, but out to 500 it doesnt give anything up and may have some advantages.

Given that a lot of guys like the 120TSX out of the 7mm's I was thinking maybe the 110TTSX might be reasonable choice on elk. Doesnt seem to be too much experience on elk though.

About the 3500fps thing, since Barnes is the only book thats lists velocities like that, and I plan on doing the cheap bullet switchero (110vmax) for practice, and I cant find any other book load for a cup and core 110 going near that fast, ill probably throttle back some smile


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I feel your right, I find speeds for both to be about 100 fps on the hard side (on average). It is kind of amazing what the extra speed will do isn't it.

Be kind of fun to run a couple charts to see exactly when the speed becomes a non issue. Is it 100 fps diff, 200 or what I mean?

Lots of people on the Fire using the 120's out of the various 7's. Away from the Fire I don't see it much though. And I don't see many at either place using the 120 on big big game (elk/moose etc aside from DZ). But I do see the 120 being used on small big game like lopes/deer etc.

I'd have issues using the 120 TSX on elk and such out of my 7 Mashburn Super. And I did bounce some game with the bullet but I can't recall doing any elk with it.

In terms of the 110 out of the .270 on elk I'd have no problemo. It'd be pretty much like using the 25/06 on elk and the 25 is a sure thing killer of elky's.

Lastly, with LRF's showing up and dotz or turrets the idea of hot rodding a round to get to this or that speed just isn't appealing to me anymore. That and the fact that I'm in mid life (52)now...grin

Bottom line, it don't matter to me as long as one's hunting as much as we can!

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I cannot see holding back on using a Barnes at the highest speeds one can get. The light weights seem to penetrate about the same as the equivalent heavier weights due to the higher velocity.

I.e. a 110TSX will penetrate just as deep as a 130, so long as it is started about 200fps faster.

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Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski
Originally Posted by SeanD
At 650 yards the 140 AB @3100 passes up the 110 TTSX @3500fps in velocity according to JBM.


I just did a bit of work on JBM and I find that the 140 does indeed pass up the 110 speed wise when one gets to 750 yds.

Dober


I can't see that far ...guess I'll just have to stick with 130s... wink

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Finally made it to the range with the first loads...
70 degrees and a bit windy..
My Featherweight .270, 22 inch barrel @ 100yards using:
100grain Barnes TTSX
48grains RL15
WLR Primer
R-P range pick-up brass (not sure I'll do that part again)
Loaded to 3.30 OAL
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I shot the .270 cal Sierra 110g Pro Hunter with the same load listed above, very, very accurate.

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